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    It's looking better and better all the time, Pete. Yeah, there are definitely wood and body work grades of sand paper. Hardware store sand paper is usually for doing wood work, auto body paint stores have the better/more aggressive stuff. Pricier, but lasts way longer and it really cuts.
    1979 GS1000S,

    1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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      Cheers Larry! I tried something different yesterday and cut one of the 5" 36 grit discs I have for the power drill attachment in half. The difference is amazing!

      It's not as flexible as paper and is a bit awkward due to the semi-circle shape but the paint and primer comes off so much quicker and easier. I think different paper may have saved hours so I'll have to find where to get some.
      1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
      1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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        Most hobbyists are unaware that the higher quality products really save time and effort. You want a sand paper that's gonna cut. Now. No matter what grit. Even a good quality 180-400-500-600 grit will do it's job so much better then the cheap stuff which looses it's tooth so quickly. Masking tape is the same story. Cheap hardware tape sucks so bad. All one has to do is use a high quality masking tape one time to see the difference. It sticks, it stays, it can be on for a week and still remain flexible and will pull off cleanly leaving no residue. More money out front, means more money saved in the long run and a better finished job later.
        1979 GS1000S,

        1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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          I'm learning that slowly Larry, probably too slowly... although I did learn the masking tape lesson with the 450 paint job and it's served me well with the little bits I've done since. This is the first time I've actually had to paint strip with paper, so far all the stripping has been metal work and paint stripper. I'm definitely understanding the difference now! The funny thing is in the long run doing it this way will definitely cost more.

          Hopefully I can drop into the hardware on the way to work this morning and see if there's some better paper they have that I've been missing, otherwise I'll have to find another source.
          1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
          1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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            I've enjoyed watching your learning curve and progress over the years, Pete. I understand how hard it is sometimes to find a balance between affordability and quality when it comes to materials. It was different for me doing it for a living where time really was money. Not only did I need the products to work well, and quickly, but there was always a bit of leftover from one project to help offset the cost of the next. A lot of hobbyists are on a tight budget and will opt for the less expensive materials. I totally get that.
            1979 GS1000S,

            1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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              What I have found with the quality sandpaper a is longevity and conversion to the next finer grit when worn. Use a 220 to its full potential and after its effective 220 work it is still good and becomes say 280 or 320 grit when worn. So I don't chuck them, I save them for finer grit use
              1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
              1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017

              I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                Ah good idea! I didn't get to the hardware yesterday morning due to an urgent issue at work but I'll try again this morning. Fingers crossed they have some better paper there somewhere.

                And yep Larry, the budget thing is annoying but sometimes it's best to think ahead a bit and spend a bit more on quality stuff. Learning when it's the right time to do that, and the right time to save the $$ is the tricky bit.
                1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                  Two things... firstly I picked up some 80 grit wet/dry yesterday as that was the best I could find, and it certainly leaves the 40 grit timber paper behind, much better! Not quite as effective as the cut up 36 grit disc but it's far more easier to use, so I should have the cowl ready for filler and putty on the weekend.

                  Second thing is I got a call about the tank yesterday, and it's actually not repairable which has nothing to do with my over inflating efforts... turns out under the paint it's not good. It's been repaired before and has rust externally as well as bog over rust. I haven't laid eyes on it yet but it sounds like any form of rust treatment will likely end up with holes in it. So I guess I'm looking for another tank...
                  1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                  1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                    Too bad about the tank.
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                    2006 Triumph Sprint ST 1050

                    Ohhhh!........Torque sweet Temptress.........always whispering.... a murmuring Siren

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                      Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                      What I have found with the quality sandpaper a is longevity and conversion to the next finer grit when worn. Use a 220 to its full potential and after its effective 220 work it is still good and becomes say 280 or 320 grit when worn. So I don't chuck them, I save them for finer grit use
                      Ha ha! That's exactly what I do, too. Great minds think alike. I use sandpaper till it's literally falling apart in my hands.

                      Sorry to hear about the tank, Pete. Might be a slog to find another.
                      1979 GS1000S,

                      1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                        Well, discussions were had and arrangements made yesterday here at home, and fortunately I'll be able to grab a brand spankers tank in January. Yep, still available, and in my mind not too expensive either for what it is. You can buy them all painted in 13L with decals ready to use, or you can pay less and have them in an incorrect silver ready to paint, and that option suits me just fine as I'd hate to buy one all ready with decals etc. just to have to remove them to paint it.

                        That option did make me stop and think for a minute about my paint scheme, but aside from the fact I don't think the straight original 13L alone will look right with the red frame, I will need to paint the front cowl, mudguard, all the side covers, and tail piece anyway so it's not going to save time or money.
                        1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                        1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                          Wow..that's amazing that a new tank is still available. That blows me away, Pete! Good on ya for pulling the trigger for one. You'll be happy you did when it's all said and done.
                          1979 GS1000S,

                          1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                            Great news on the tank.
                            Is it from Suzuki or an aftermarket repro?
                            2@ \'78 GS1000

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                              I think you should bite the bullet and go for one of those Yosh aluminum tanks...
                              1981 GS1100E

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                                I've actually been surprised at just how much stuff is still available brand new for the Kat! The dealer most of us use here is somewhat of a Kat specialist (Mick Hone) and is owned by the man himself and he's an ex-racer.

                                The tanks are genuine ridgey didge Suzuki items and can be had either painted in the correct 13L with decals applied ready to go, or like I'll get which is painted in an incorrect silver colour for about 70% of the cost of the ready to go version.

                                An aluminium Yoshi tank... mmmm... that would be tasty indeed! They're about three times the price though...
                                1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                                1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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