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    #16
    I am interested and also sent you a pm on the brake conversion.

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      #17
      Heads-up for those of us in Europe.
      Heiden Tuning have the XS650 valves in stock for €53
      http://heidentuning.com/p/28/2600/mo74-cg|21=2/%2327-1086-front-fork-damper-valve-set



      There's also a very good instructional pdf on that page, which is dead handy for me as I'll get another set of these for my XS.
      Last edited by Grimly; 07-07-2016, 08:02 PM.
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        #18
        Are the XS emulatators adjusted and set up the same way as Racetech? What I am asking, if I have someone set them up for me, would someone who is familiar with Racetech stuff be able to set these up also? If so,yes I will take a set.
        Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
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        Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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          #19
          If you're going through the trouble of contacting a machine shop to make the adapters did you price having them machine the emulator? It sends that the price differential for an adapter plus the emulator would be more than just a properly sized emulator.

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            #20
            Yes would that be a bad thing to do?
            Get it specced out and send the cad drawing to China Inc.
            1983 GS 550 LD
            2009 BMW K1300s

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              #21
              Put me down for a set also please, just purchased some new stunchings so while they are apart it would be good to fit them
              Current Bikes.... 81,1230Kat, 86,GSXR1100, 86,RG500,
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                #22
                Originally posted by limeex2 View Post
                Are the XS emulatators adjusted and set up the same way as Racetech? What I am asking, if I have someone set them up for me, would someone who is familiar with Racetech stuff be able to set these up also? If so,yes I will take a set.
                Yes. The setup is exactly the same.
                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar.....

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by dantodd View Post
                  If you're going through the trouble of contacting a machine shop to make the adapters did you price having them machine the emulator? It sends that the price differential for an adapter plus the emulator would be more than just a properly sized emulator.
                  Why didn't I think of that... I must be really dumb!

                  I can for sure get a cartridge emulator set machined up for less than $100

                  The simple reason is that Racetech have an active patent on their cartridge emulators.
                  I am not sure how MIKESXS gets away with selling his emulator without getting dragged to court (they have successfully sued others).
                  His is slightly different in construction (it is built upside down compared to racetech's and is actually a better (and more costly to machine) version however in US patent law (this is different to patent law in lots of other countries including the UK) there is such a thing as substantially the same (i.e. even if something is slightly different in design/construction your patent is still valid if it does the same job in the same way).

                  It's called the Doctrine of equivalents - more info here if you want to read up on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_of_equivalents

                  I know a little bit about patent law. I also know I don't want to get sued.

                  Nobody has a patent on the adapter. I just developed it as a work around for myself.
                  Last edited by salty_monk; 07-09-2016, 02:24 AM.
                  1980 GS1000G - Sold
                  1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                  1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                  1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                  2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                  1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                  2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar.....

                  www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                  TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by salty_monk View Post
                    Nobody has a patent on the adapter. I just developed it as a work around for myself.
                    It wouldn't be something you could get a patent on anyway. I didn't know that RT had sued people over their design but it doesn't surprise me.


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                      #25
                      can I have the cad drawing? I want to try and print a set. Material says it can withstand 12000 pst dynamic load conpression,
                      1983 GS 550 LD
                      2009 BMW K1300s

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                        #26
                        What material & type of printing are you thinking of? What kit are you using
                        1980 GS1000G - Sold
                        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar.....

                        www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                        TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Cipher View Post
                          can I have the cad drawing? I want to try and print a set. Material says it can withstand 12000 pst dynamic load conpression,
                          What about creep and resistance to petroleum products?
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                            #28
                            Who wants to be a Guinea pig on the Nylon machined version? Save me pulling my forks apart....

                            needs to be someone willing to install quickly and put some decent mileage on them.

                            I should have a set to test about end of September.

                            To clarify these are the same design as the brass ones I have been using for years but made out of an engineering Nylon. Given the ABS pipe we use in our forks and the ramshackle ways I've seen other emulators modified I can't see why these won't work (and if they fail I can't see how it would be catastrophic failure as there is nowhere for them to go.
                            Last edited by salty_monk; 08-30-2016, 05:18 PM.
                            1980 GS1000G - Sold
                            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar.....

                            www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                              #29
                              Dan,

                              Wondering if anything ever came of the new style emulator adapters you made?

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                                #30
                                Member on here has a Nylon set of adapters (voluteered as a guinea pig...) but no feedback yet. I suspect they will be fine. I do have a couple of other sets if you also want to volunteer...

                                To be honest there doesn't seem to be that much interest so I haven't given it much more effort.
                                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar.....

                                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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