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cowboyup3371
12-13-2016, 07:48 PM
Where do you prefer to shop for your motorcycles - old or newer? Is any one better than the other and is there any that a person should stay away from?

cowboyup3371
12-13-2016, 08:59 PM
As an afterthought, how trustworthy is Ebay for buying vehicles? We all have had some horror stories on not getting exactly what you bought for some of the individual parts but are bike purchases pretty much as honest as going to a dealer?

azr
12-13-2016, 09:50 PM
Up here in Canada Kijiji is popular across the country but here on Vancouver Island, UsedCa is popular as well but not much in other parts of the country.

Steve
12-13-2016, 10:05 PM
The way you are asking how we shop for bikes almost makes it sound like we do this often. :-k

Well, maybe some do acquire bikes to fix and re-sell, but some of us are happy enough with what we have, that we don't bother 'shopping'. :-\\\

When I retire (yeah, right), I might have enough time to flip a few bikes, but right now, there is soo much "life" happening to devote that much time to buying, fixing and selling bikes.

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tkent02
12-13-2016, 10:06 PM
The good ones seem to come to me.

BurntKittyForge
12-13-2016, 10:15 PM
Too Many thoughts to mention all...

I prefer Craigslist because I can see pics, and also especially looking at cars, the traffic has gotten so bad I often type in different town/city names nearby and a price range is my main criteria LOL.

I almost always prefer "for sale by owner" over BUT there's been a few good deals at pawn shops for MC's it looked like a few times.

Dealer tends to be way overpriced. UNLESS it's a tiny shop with the owner present from my experience.

-I gave up on Ebay a while back because the price kept changing drastically. The "Buy it now" ?
How / why buy an MC off the pic alone(?)
Also one ad was a dealership and the price when I called was for their "financing plan only" that one really had me P'd (told story elsewhere where I'd prepared to travel to Ohio, figured truck rental, schedule etc. in advance before calling...URGH!)

ALSO, an auction (any) could be easily rigged IMO. For example , offers not good enough? then just buy it from self or have a friend...RIGGED auction BS... course sometimes I suspect CL posters do similar by placing fake ads to manipulate the market at times maybe (?)

Newspaper might be ok but seems a bit stone-age in comparison. And probably not much selection.
I'd be interested to check out cycle trader site, the old paper one was good back then...

I stay away from Baltimore (completely ignore), mostly since the race riot.
One can get a feel for ad sometimes based on ad wording, but I judged my current bike's seller badly, Ad read "could use paint, just no time for it" I figured it was a guy with good job/ money /unskilled to work on it/$ for better one/prestige LOL...Needed everything, rotten shape and no time because he was a fisherman crabber boat guy w/ wife and baby etc...
well just my .02 since I voted on it. Oh, I bought 3 motorcycles total off CL ads By the way.
One (first one) from a used car dealer ,for cheap ($100), he wanted it off lot because it was causing trespassers stealing parts he said...[EDIT: This one was a car lot, not from an ad, other 3 were CL ad]:cool:

MI GS850G guy
04-27-2017, 09:42 PM
I bought my '81 Honda CB900 Custom off of an ad on CL. I live in Ann Arbor, MI, and the seller lived in one of the little towns north of Detroit - close enough for me to drive to to look at the bike in person. The seller was a straight-up kind of guy, and we made a deal and he even delivered it for me.

My '81 Suzuki GS850G I bought on the strength of a few pictures that the Harley dealer in Ames, Iowa had posted on a website (I don't remember which website). I found the ad on a Sunday night by doing a Google search for "GS850's for sale", and this one popped up. I had to wait until Monday morning to confirm that it was still for sale. When I asked the dealer for the price, and he said $600, I decided there on the spot that I'd buy it (although I did make the salesman take a bunch of additional pictures for me - especially the exhaust because it seems the exhaust is always the first to go). I hired a guy on U-Ship to transport it for me, and even after I paid him, it was still a pretty good buy. It's one of those bikes that looks great in pictures, and from about 15 feet away, but when you get up close to inspect it, there were lots of little details that needed attending to. I've spent more on it than I'll ever get out of it, but all-in-all, I'm glad I bought it.

kaufen
09-06-2017, 06:50 AM
I almost always prefer "for sale by owner" over BUT there's been a few good deals at pawn shops for MC's it looked like a few times.

storm 64
09-06-2017, 08:31 AM
I voted Other... There's a website called GS Resource that I like to use to find what I'm looking for 👍

JJ
09-06-2017, 02:48 PM
As an afterthought, how trustworthy is Ebay for buying vehicles? We all have had some horror stories on not getting exactly what you bought for some of the individual parts but are bike purchases pretty much as honest as going to a dealer?

I have bought two motorcycles and one Jeep Cherokee on Ebay. All were as advertised by honest sellers. No surprises.

Wingsconsin
09-06-2017, 04:43 PM
Searchtempest.com

Try it - it's ALL of Craigslist in one place.

I found my GS850 this way --

Sandy
09-06-2017, 05:55 PM
The good ones seem to come to me.

Same here. Last bike I actually bought that wasn't through a friend or close acquaintance was the 1977 XS750-2D I bought new at a dealer.

kerrfunk
09-13-2017, 07:33 PM
My first bike, 1982 GS 550L, I found on Clist. I didn't know thing one about motorcycles, and I had sat on another one, didn't like it, and found this 550L and I liked it. The seller brought it to my house. Shortly after that, I found GSR.

Second bike, 1982 1100GL, I bought direct from ddaniels, right here in river city.

Third bike, 1985 700E, I bought on Ebay. It was 700 miles away. I took a train to Chicago, met the seller, gave him the cash, did the title transfer, and rode home 700 miles in one day. I bought it because it was sexy and I at least knew a little about motorcycles and what to look for in an ad.

Fourth and current bike, 1983 650GL, I bought on Ebay. Kind of an accident. I met the minimum bid and nobody bid over me. It wasn't running. I borrowed a buddy's pickup and drove 150 miles and picked up the bike. I rode it around my parking lot, and then when I went to change the oil, I drained it and then could not for anything get the oil cap off. Later I took the bike apart and it sat in pieces in my garage for a year. Then gsrick offered to rebuild it, so I sent it to Florida and he rebuilt it and sent it back.

I'm not particularly interested in looking at GSes on Ebay any more. Clist, yes, and GSR, definitely.

glib
09-13-2017, 11:37 PM
I bought five GS's in two years off of CL and got fair deals on each. One shipped across country. Risky but I had a good feeling about the guy and got lucky. The shipping cost double what I had budgeted and spoiled the fun a bit but it's a good bike. The others were good transactions with reasonable people. I like inspecting before buying. I have run across some inconsiderate boobs on CL though too. Travel to buy something and get a text before you arrive that it's sold. Only had one bad deal on eBay and it got resolved. Whether buying or selling I'd say the key to success is patience.

adamdaz
08-17-2021, 08:35 AM
facebook marketplace has replaced craigslist for me.

bwringer
08-17-2021, 10:18 AM
Interesting old thread to resurrect... but worth discussing.


Let's look at some of my history:

2 bikes - advrider.com (V-Strom DL1000, sold on ADVrider.com, and FJ-09, still own)

2 bikes - CrackList (VX800 #2 sold to a friend, KLR650 #1, totaled)

1 bike - CrackList found via http://www.bikefinds.com/ (KLR650 #2, still own)

1 bike - Cycle Trader (VX800 #1, sold via CrackList, IIRC)

2 bikes - Newspaper classified ads (GS850, purchased on consignment from a small independent shop in 1997 back when newspaper classifieds were still a thing, still own, wife's Honda 1981 CM400T, sold to a friend)

3 bikes - personal contacts (1978 GS400, sold to a friend, 1978 KZ650 sold via classified ad a long time ago, 1979 GS850, parted out)

I also found my van (2010 Toyota Sienna, still owned) and my wife's last car (2004 Camry, totaled with family sale pending, which sucked) on CrackList. Her current car, a 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport, was purchased from Carmax after a few extremely bad dealership experiences.

We've also purchased a few cars through our credit union's auto buying service - if this is available to you, this is by far the best experience.

I do think the CrackList era is completely over. It's 95% scammers and the rest are small-time dealers masquerading as private party sellers. The signal to noise ratio is overwhelming for both buyers and sellers.


As far as selling bikes, I've had the best results from ADVrider.com -- it's mostly "adventure" and dual-sport focused, but it's a huge worldwide audience of motorcycle enthusiasts, most of whom own multiple bikes. All kinds of motorcycles are welcome and free to post. That said, there's a lot of activity and you can only bump your ad every two weeks or so; it takes patience.

The guy I bought my FJ-09 from posted on ADVrider.com because he wanted to make sure it was purchased by an experienced rider. It's a powerful bike, and he just could not have lived with himself if some yahoo in his 20s bought it and then went out and splattered himself. When we first spoke on the phone, it was something like a job interview where we discussed my training, experience, etc. I kinda get that... they're not kittens, but you do want them to go to good homes.


I've never really figured out why selling bikes here on the GSR forum doesn't work better.

For example, Larry D's fantastic GK has been up for sale here for a month or two at an amazing price with no nibbles. Can't figure that one out.
Here's the link: https://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?261666-84-gs-1100-gk

One huge factor is that this is the most frugal, tightfisted bunch of two-wheeled tightwads I've ever seen. I love you all like brothers, but damn, many of you make KLR riders look like drunk lottery winners. I've seen people miss months of prime riding time because they won't buy a $5 multimeter, or skate around all summer on glass-hard ancient rubber because they can't bring themselves to spend $120 on a set of Shinko tires. How many people have wasted entire riding seasons because they insist on farting around with low-rent petcock rebuild kits instead of just ponying up for new petcocks, or won't skip a few lattes and buy intake boots or a stator?

Or maybe it's that a lot of folks here already have a GS and don't want another. That's the category I fall into, I suppose.

Buffalo Bill
08-17-2021, 11:48 AM
Facebook has disposed CL and ebay. I've seen weird scams on FB, like the same bike multi listings and addresses.
Another weird thing, "for trade only" I don't get.
How about a GSXR "will only trade for a Harley". How's that gonna happen?

eil
08-17-2021, 06:49 PM
Craigslist charges for vehicle sales now, including motorcycles. Their reasoning is that it reduces scams. So around here anyway, craigslist is a wasteland and almost everyone uses Facebook Marketplace now.

Which sucks because the FB interface is terrible for SO MANY reasons.

oldGSfan
08-17-2021, 08:37 PM
I bought two Goldwings and a sidecar frame for the $5 the guy charged to list it :-) That was a fast $1500. I mean $1495.


Craigslist charges for vehicle sales now, including motorcycles. Their reasoning is that it reduces scams. So around here anyway, craigslist is a wasteland and almost everyone uses Facebook Marketplace now.

Which sucks because the FB interface is terrible for SO MANY reasons.

salty_monk
08-17-2021, 09:52 PM
Pretty much everything I've bought has either come from this forum or the Adventure rider forum. I've fixed a couple of friends up with bikes off ADVrider too. It's the first place I look.

:)

nejeff
08-22-2021, 10:32 PM
"...One huge factor is that this is the most frugal, tightfisted bunch of two-wheeled tightwads I've ever seen. I love you all like brothers, but damn, many of you make KLR riders look like drunk lottery winners. I've seen people miss months of prime riding time because they won't buy a $5 multimeter, or skate around all summer on glass-hard ancient rubber because they can't bring themselves to spend $120 on a set of Shinko tires. How many people have wasted entire riding seasons because they insist on farting around with low-rent petcock rebuild kits instead of just ponying up for new petcocks, or won't skip a few lattes and buy intake boots or a stator?"

Truer words have never been spoken (typed)

oldGSfan
08-22-2021, 11:40 PM
Craigslist wins for me hands down because it's local and the search and filtering works well. Facebook is useless to me, it has never brought up one thing I've seen that I think's a good deal, and I can't seem to filter much at all (or I can't figure it out?). And by the looks of it, it's scam city. I don't trust buying a bike by pictures. Even bikes I see have hidden surprises sometimes. I have and will continue to score deals on CL that I think are amazing,

Sorry a bit of bragging but in just the last 15 months this skinflint has gotten

A $150 Norton 750 desert sled which came with custom striped and lettered oil and gas tanks that are worth 3x that easily for the tanks alone, not to mention the complete bike in pretty decent restorable shape
A Mr Turbo GS1100E with Bonneville history for $1k
A sweet Honda '83 750 for $800
A nice '79 GS1000E for $900
An all original, running and fairly decent GS1100E for $500.
Two free GL1100 Goldwings with a rare sidecar frame.

There's no joining, no nonsense with social media scooping my data. Just be a bit sensible and you can figure out the losers. Oh and speaking of losers, I just lost out on a $1K '72 CB750 with original unrusted 4/4 pipes and beautiful bodywork because I was a dummy and didn't pounce fast enough. And I missed two GPz1100's that were very nice looking, an '82 and '83 for $1200, 2.5 hours away - the guy who called minutes before was on his way already from San Francisco. You have to be quick and smart, and sometimes I'm neither but I do OK.

bwringer
08-24-2021, 08:03 AM
...Sorry a bit of bragging but in just the last 15 months this skinflint has gotten....

Then again, you're in Southern California, which has been the world epicenter of moto-culture for several decades. And I'm sure that's part of the reason you live there!

Here in the midwest, after you eliminate the 95% of ads that are bots or scams, it's tough to find anything that's not a Harley. There are a few roached/stolen/crashed sportbikes in there. Genuine ads for vintage bikes are fairly rare, and if the bike actually has a title it's the rarest of the rare, and a topic of excited discussion among locals.

As an example, earlier this year I was in the market for a modern bike (Yamaha FJ-09), and I ended up dragging a trailer 550 miles each way to pick it up when I finally found one within any sort of striking distance on ADVrider.com.

Wingsconsin
08-24-2021, 09:33 AM
Then again, you're in Southern California, which has been the world epicenter of moto-culture for several decades. And I'm sure that's part of the reason you live there!

Here in the midwest, after you eliminate the 95% of ads that are bots or scams, it's tough to find anything that's not a Harley. There are a few roached/stolen/crashed sportbikes in there. Genuine ads for vintage bikes are fairly rare, and if the bike actually has a title it's the rarest of the rare, and a topic of excited discussion among locals.



Try it in Milwaukee --- :hypnotysed:

LOW mileage Harleys are everywhere -- but they are really proud of them and not cheap ;)

oldGSfan
08-24-2021, 10:16 AM
True, being myopic. Reminded me of the old line, Q: Why do you rob banks? A: Because that's where the $ is!

When I visited my dad up in WA, the last town before Canada on the I5, it seemed every other farmhouse had a dozen or more old cars rotting in the yard. I wondered if the barns contained motorcycles.


Then again, you're in Southern California, which has been the world epicenter of moto-culture for several decades. And I'm sure that's part of the reason you live there!

bwringer
08-25-2021, 01:55 PM
Try it in Milwaukee --- :hypnotysed:

LOW mileage Harleys are everywhere -- but they are really proud of them and not cheap ;)


"$5,000 invested in chrome!"

LOL.

wyly
09-12-2021, 05:38 PM
Kijiji, local, provincial or national.

Gorminrider
09-16-2021, 11:47 AM
Craigslist wins for me hands down because it's local and the search and filtering works well. Facebook is useless to me, it has never brought up one thing I've seen that I think's a good deal, and I can't seem to filter much at all (or I can't figure it out?). And by the looks of it, it's scam city. I don't trust buying a bike by pictures. Even bikes I see have hidden surprises sometimes. I have and will continue to score deals on CL that I think are amazing,

Sorry a bit of bragging but in just the last 15 months this skinflint has gotten

A $150 Norton 750 desert sled which came with custom striped and lettered oil and gas tanks that are worth 3x that easily for the tanks alone, not to mention the complete bike in pretty decent restorable shape
A Mr Turbo GS1100E with Bonneville history for $1k
A sweet Honda '83 750 for $800
A nice '79 GS1000E for $900
An all original, running and fairly decent GS1100E for $500.
Two free GL1100 Goldwings with a rare sidecar frame.

There's no joining, no nonsense with social media scooping my data. Just be a bit sensible and you can figure out the losers. Oh and speaking of losers, I just lost out on a $1K '72 CB750 with original unrusted 4/4 pipes and beautiful bodywork because I was a dummy and didn't pounce fast enough. And I missed two GPz1100's that were very nice looking, an '82 and '83 for $1200, 2.5 hours away - the guy who called minutes before was on his way already from San Francisco. You have to be quick and smart, and sometimes I'm neither but I do OK.

Yes, Craigslist is still best. buying or selling locally. Facebook-meh. My experience indicates there's a lot of dreamers sprawled on their couch responding because it's easy. They are less committed to actually buying and can't seem to stoke their adrenal glands to read, comprehend, and make a real world connection to show up.

GSXR7ED
09-16-2021, 03:41 PM
"...One huge factor is that this is the most frugal, tightfisted bunch of two-wheeled tightwads I've ever seen. I love you all like brothers, but damn, many of you make KLR riders look like drunk lottery winners. I've seen people miss months of prime riding time because they won't buy a $5 multimeter, or skate around all summer on glass-hard ancient rubber because they can't bring themselves to spend $120 on a set of Shinko tires. How many people have wasted entire riding seasons because they insist on farting around with low-rent petcock rebuild kits instead of just ponying up for new petcocks, or won't skip a few lattes and buy intake boots or a stator?"

Truer words have never been spoken (typed)

Now, that's funny!

Everyone always talks about how cheap members here are...I can't remember seeing anything worth bringing up.

I've owned 3 bikes and all were from Craigslist. If they charge now, that's a turn-off...but I would probably fork over the $5 bucks so as not to appear a "cheapo", lol!!!

Ed

****

EDIT: All the interaction with sellers on CL was great! You could tell who put good effort into trying to sell their bike.

1st Bike: Dover, DE to Sterling, VA
2nd: Glen Burnie, MD
3rd: Palmerton, PA

storm 64
09-16-2021, 08:23 PM
I just got home from looking at a motorcycle for sale. It was a 1997 Yamaha FJ 1200. Dark blue with gold stripes. It was a beautiful motorcycle... when it was new! This one was a little to scratched up for me. I think it was stolen at one point in its life, and it liked it. It seemed to run good. The fellow selling it was nice. We chatted about motorcycle for a while... Oh, I found it on Craigslist Youngstown.

chrisbnvds4
09-29-2021, 09:53 PM
The Marketplace on Facebook is also good option if you're planning to purchase used motorcycle.

wymple
10-04-2021, 08:30 PM
I would prefer to buy from a well respected member on a forum. Hands down.

hank2
10-05-2021, 04:18 PM
Although I have both sold and bought bikes on Craig's List in the past, I'd also say that Facebook Marketplace may have the most listings these days. In my area, Craig's list has nearly been empty of used bikes from private sellers for a couple of years. It was once many pages long The $5. listing fee for vehicles started in about March 2019 seemed to kill it completely.

Big Block
10-05-2021, 09:34 PM
Ha, ha: I bought 3 Zukes this year. 2 from Facebook and 1 from a local to me classifieds website. I watch the Canadian KIJIJI website like a hawk as well. I have to stop though, I was looking at a decent 750F today for $1k. It's hard to look away.

ferdston
10-15-2021, 02:38 AM
Got my bike off of local craigslist, and had no problems.

Noreg
11-08-2021, 10:16 AM
I bought my bike by word of mouth. My friend called me an told me I should buy it.

Other than that I use Finn.no (Norwegian buy whatever site) or blocket.se (swedish buy whatever site).

Sweden have some really cheap bikes, I saw a GS1000G 1982 for like $947 and a GS450 or something for half that! Also a mint looking DR650 for fairly cheap.

I find dealers to be somewhat hassle. But I haven't had a new bike.

trevor
11-08-2021, 11:46 AM
Facebook Market Place seems to be the "IT" place right now here....
I've bought from almost all the place in the poll...except the news paper...lol..Auto trader magazines when I was young was the preferred place.