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Dogma
07-09-2020, 04:54 PM
For those who don't already know, booking is now open for this event.

Time to start making your excuses, but why people do that is beyond understanding.

Here's the dirt:
https://mailchi.mp/motoworkschicago/phase-four-starting-at-motoworks-closed-july-4th-453562?e=0c84f79e24

This video is a few years old...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4SsddT8FDo&feature=youtu.be

And another...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9RHkquLrf8

Joe Nardy
07-09-2020, 05:12 PM
Dale,

Believe it or not, I'll be the first to reply as a 'Next year FOR SURE' guy, unless something changes in regard to our house sale and move. We're scheduled to close on our home in Chicagoland on July 23rd and will be heading to our new place in Maryville TN immediately after. I'm going to be plenty busy getting settled in at the new place (not really new, we bought it last September) for a while so August 10th probably isn't going to happen. However, it's just 21 miles from our new place to the top of Deal's Gap and there are plenty of great roads in the area so overall my riding situation will be improving over the current flatland situation dramatically, not to mention the longer riding season.

I'll be thinking of you guys and gals. Everyone have an awesome and safe track day!

Thanks,
Joe

Buffalo Bill
07-09-2020, 05:13 PM
Hey Dogma, looks like the best 1st time track day for newbees!

greg78gs750
07-09-2020, 06:20 PM
next year for sure! lol. Unless somebody has a motorcycle I can borrow...

Dogma
07-11-2020, 01:47 PM
Hey Dogma, looks like the best 1st time track day for newbees!

The novice group is great for first timers. The track can be disorienting at first, and they do a good job of easing you into it.

Dogma
07-11-2020, 01:59 PM
I'd loan you the ZRX, but I still need to put it back together. I think that project has been dragging on for 5 years already. I'll get it done next year, for sure.

gbw
07-11-2020, 04:17 PM
I'll know soon if I can go. Also have a friend down here that might join us as well. He's been hearing me talk about it so much he's eager to see for himself.

gbw
07-14-2020, 11:44 AM
Ok, I'm in! Track day ticket purchased. Holiday Day Inn reservation made. Yeah! Can't wait. :)

My buddy that expressed interest is out. Something about a trip to Maui with his wife. Some people have funny priorities.

Dogma
07-14-2020, 07:16 PM
Ok, I'm in! Track day ticket purchased. Holiday Day Inn reservation made. Yeah! Can't wait. :)

My buddy that expressed interest is out. Something about a trip to Maui with his wife. Some people have funny priorities.

Do they have the block of rooms reserved? I thought I read they hadn't set that up yet.

tas850g
07-14-2020, 10:11 PM
Ok, I'm in! Track day ticket purchased. Holiday Day Inn reservation made. Yeah! Can't wait. :)

My buddy that expressed interest is out. Something about a trip to Maui with his wife. Some people have funny priorities.

Is this your first track day? If so, you’ll have so much fun and realize how capable our bikes really are.

gbw
07-14-2020, 11:09 PM
Do they have the block of rooms reserved? I thought I read they hadn't set that up yet.

I was able to call and reserve a room by mentioning the block and the rate I saw on Johnny's website.

gbw
07-14-2020, 11:12 PM
Is this your first track day? If so, you’ll have so much fun and realize how capable our bikes really are.

Not my first. I've maybe done 4 or 5 of Motorworks' track days. It is a LOT of fun. Especially with this group.

Dogma
07-17-2020, 03:32 PM
I was able to call and reserve a room by mentioning the block and the rate I saw on Johnny's website.

Thanks for that. I'll go look into it.

On Johnny's Facebook page?

gbw
07-18-2020, 08:10 AM
On Johnny's Facebook page?
On the registration page: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/motoworks-17th-annual-track-day-tickets-92829105353

Hotel accomodations:
We have a block rate available at the Holiday Inn Express in South Haven, MI. Contact them directly and Mention the Motoworks Block for an amazing rate of $99/night during their busy Blueberry Fest weekend.
Holiday Inn Express 1741 Phoenix St, South Haven, MI 49090 (269) 637-8800

Dogma
07-19-2020, 11:51 AM
On the registration page: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/motoworks-17th-annual-track-day-tickets-92829105353

Hotel accomodations:
We have a block rate available at the Holiday Inn Express in South Haven, MI. Contact them directly and Mention the Motoworks Block for an amazing rate of $99/night during their busy Blueberry Fest weekend.
Holiday Inn Express 1741 Phoenix St, South Haven, MI 49090 (269) 637-8800

Thanks, I see it now. You have to read past the part that says "We will have a block of rooms at a local hotel. Details on that will follow." I thought that meant details will follow in a later email.

greg78gs750
08-10-2020, 09:33 AM
Ride safe today, friends!

bwringer
08-10-2020, 08:45 PM
We need pics, video and a full report.

Did the dread derecho get ya?

gbw
08-11-2020, 08:16 PM
My report: Dale, Neil, and I arrived Sunday evening, helped each other unload and setup our paddock. Johnny offered a BBQ supper, then we went on a track walk. The event organizer oriented us to the track, gave us pointers on the best lines, told us that no trophies would be awarded so we should have fun and be nice.

Early Monday morning, like 4am, started with a pretty good thunderstorm. Everything was wet when we arrived at the track. But the sun came out and everything was pretty dry by the time we got the bikes out for our first session. The track was dry and grippy all day and there wasn't any more ill weather until after we'd packed up for the day and were down the road eating dinner. Then a wicked storm came though to round out our day.

There were a total of about 60 riders at the event divided into 3 groups. We were in the intermediate group and it was small enough that it was like having the track to ourselves. In fact, I made it a point to try to find and empty place to enter the track and most of the day I was riding around a race track all alone. It was wonderful. Then every now and then Dale or Neil, or both, would blast past me. Man those guys are fast!

Neil has a new-to-him CBR 600 and it's a real weapon. Dale had, as far as I could tell, the only vintage bike in the entire paddock. He was also one of the best riders on the track. He put many very expensive motorcycles to shame. Several times rider coaches came to our paddock to marvel at Dale and the amazing GS, giving both praise. At one point Dale asked a coach how he could go around the track faster. Like, could he hang off farther, or lean further, or take a different line, or something. The coach told him: NO. You're riding that bike at 10/10ths. There is no way for you to ride that bike any faster around this track. In fact, you're at the limit and you should slow down in the corners a little. After that I saw Dale eye Neil's bike with more than a little jealously.

We all rode every session without issue and all had a blast. We packed up after the last session, tired and sweaty, then went to dinner. Neil headed home, Dale and I retired to the Holiday Inn Express, and that was all she wrote. All in all a wonderful day and I can't wait until next year.


My pictures: I only took a few. But we'll post some of the professional pictures of us on the track in a few weeks when they're published. You can then marvel at Neil's and Dale's amazingness, and openly mock my lack of skill, form, and speed. :)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50216671857_22e45322e3_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jvtz2c)Gingerman 2020 (https://flic.kr/p/2jvtz2c) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50216445446_52c027986e_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jvspHy)Gingerman 2020 (https://flic.kr/p/2jvspHy) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50215791313_bed839d900_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jvp4gp)Gingerman 2020 (https://flic.kr/p/2jvp4gp) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

My video: What kind of operation do you think this is?

storm 64
08-11-2020, 08:50 PM
Haha I hope Dale didn't use up all his motorcycle. He needs it for a few more rallies! At least he had the touring package off the bike. That's funny "Nope your at 10 out of 10! 😀👍

greg78gs750
08-12-2020, 08:11 AM
Yeah, chasing Dale can be a frustrating exercise..... Glad you guys had a good day, I really missed being there. Very nice that attendance was down a bit, not that it is ever THAT busy, but a few less bikes on the track isn't a bad thing.... NEXT YEAR FOR SURE (lol), I've been looking at SV650's as a replacement for the ES.....

gbw
08-12-2020, 10:20 AM
I've been looking at SV650's as a replacement for the ES.....
I've got a buddy up in DC that's selling a really nice Street Triple if that's something you're interested in. He goes back and forth between DC and Chicago a lot. He might even ride it out there for you :)

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/215282179492115/

greg78gs750
08-12-2020, 01:25 PM
ooohh, that is a nice looking bike.....thanks for the tip!

salty_monk
08-12-2020, 05:41 PM
Looks like fun as usual...

And as usual Greg - I think you doth protest too much... :)

I just got an F800GS to "look after" for a while... some modern bells & whistles in the garage for a change!

oramac
08-12-2020, 08:35 PM
Man, I'm envious! Turns out, I could've done this one (though, there was no way to know in advance), because our school corporation delayed the start one week due to COVID. I'd really love to try a track day some time. For now, I'll just live vicariously through you all.

Dogma
08-15-2020, 12:37 PM
My report: Dale, Neil, and I arrived Sunday evening, helped each other unload and setup our paddock. Johnny offered a BBQ supper, then we went on a track walk. The event organizer oriented us to the track, gave us pointers on the best lines, told us that no trophies would be awarded so we should have fun and be nice.

Early Monday morning, like 4am, started with a pretty good thunderstorm. Everything was wet when we arrived at the track. But the sun came out and everything was pretty dry by the time we got the bikes out for our first session. The track was dry and grippy all day and there wasn't any more ill weather until after we'd packed up for the day and were down the road eating dinner. Then a wicked storm came though to round out our day.

There were a total of about 60 riders at the event divided into 3 groups. We were in the intermediate group and it was small enough that it was like having the track to ourselves. In fact, I made it a point to try to find and empty place to enter the track and most of the day I was riding around a race track all alone. It was wonderful. Then every now and then Dale or Neil, or both, would blast past me. Man those guys are fast!

Neil has a new-to-him CBR 600 and it's a real weapon. Dale had, as far as I could tell, the only vintage bike in the entire paddock. He was also one of the best riders on the track. He put many very expensive motorcycles to shame. Several times rider coaches came to our paddock to marvel at Dale and the amazing GS, giving both praise. At one point Dale asked a coach how he could go around the track faster. Like, could he hang off farther, or lean further, or take a different line, or something. The coach told him: NO. You're riding that bike at 10/10ths. There is no way for you to ride that bike any faster around this track. In fact, you're at the limit and you should slow down in the corners a little. After that I saw Dale eye Neil's bike with more than a little jealously.

We all rode every session without issue and all had a blast. We packed up after the last session, tired and sweaty, then went to dinner. Neil headed home, Dale and I retired to the Holiday Inn Express, and that was all she wrote. All in all a wonderful day and I can't wait until next year.


My pictures: I only took a few. But we'll post some of the professional pictures of us on the track in a few weeks when they're published. You can then marvel at Neil's and Dale's amazingness, and openly mock my lack of skill, form, and speed. :)
...
My video: What kind of operation do you think this is?

One nitpick: Johnny sponsored lunch on Monday, but I think Sunday evening was provided by Shiny Side Up.

You shot a video? I didn't see that! Also, I can't see it now, 'cuz there's no link.


Haha I hope Dale didn't use up all his motorcycle. He needs it for a few more rallies! At least he had the touring package off the bike. That's funny "Nope your at 10 out of 10! 

Neil said I should leave the bags on next year, to maximize embarrassment of people who spend money beyond their skills.

I did use the bike up a little bit though. For the first time ever, I scraped the foot peg, and hard. There might even be a new mark on the case guard. It was early in the day, and I was a bit lazy with the body position. Especially since the first session looked a tiny bit damp and nobody was pushing hard yet. I touched toes several times through the day and started hanging off by more than one cheek and trying to keep my upper body low and parallel. This had me thinking I was finally progressing beyond what I can do on the GS, and the riding coach at the end of the day cemented it for me. On his advice, I backed off a notch and focused on smoothness. They also showed me some new lines through 2, 3 and 7. :twistedevil:


Yeah, chasing Dale can be a frustrating exercise..... Glad you guys had a good day, I really missed being there. Very nice that attendance was down a bit, not that it is ever THAT busy, but a few less bikes on the track isn't a bad thing.... NEXT YEAR FOR SURE (lol), I've been looking at SV650's as a replacement for the ES.....

I missed having you and the ES there this year. I don't know if you have a way to connect with Neil, but he basically just got rid of an SV (SFV) for the Honda 600RR. It might be worth collecting his thoughts on that.


Man, I'm envious! Turns out, I could've done this one (though, there was no way to know in advance), because our school corporation delayed the start one week due to COVID. I'd really love to try a track day some time. For now, I'll just live vicariously through you all.

I hope you can make it someday. This event would be pretty much perfect for you. Everyone tells me it's more relaxed than ordinary track days, and there's a minimum of stupidity from other riders. Also, fewer on track.

I don't think I had the only vintage bike there. There was a red BMW shafty that looked like it was from the late 80's or early 90's. We were about matched for power, and I didn't have much if anything on him in the corners. Not early in the day, anyhow. I didn't see him after the first couple sessions.

Early Saturday afternoon, while I was taking the luggage off and generally getting ready, I had to make a last-minute addition to the bike. Very annoying . This tire had less than 1000 miles on it. Honestly, I was more concerned about what scrutineers would say. Totally by accident, I gave them something else to fuss about. I almost always forget to tape the side reflectors and LED brake lights. I'll keep an eye on pressures as usual anyway. If it holds air as well as the nail did (perfectly well), I will be fully satisfied.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50229351131_a4b943f9a4_b.jpg

It's not so visible on-screen, but in person the edge of the tire is very definitely blue.

I don't think there were any accidents this year. Definitely not in our group. Three might have been one or maybe two in the advanced group.

Another tradition we broke was ice cream at Sherman's. In addiction to COVID concerns with that crowd, there was a monster storm coming. So we had dinner at Three Blondes. Good stuff.

greg78gs750
08-15-2020, 09:35 PM
heh, I put a nail through an almost new roadrider a week before last years track day, so I feel ya....

gbw
08-16-2020, 12:37 PM
You shot a video? I didn't see that! Also, I can't see it now, 'cuz there's no link.
Nope. No link. No video. I barely took any pictures.

Steve
08-16-2020, 12:54 PM
No link? No video? No pictures?

What was the point of going there? https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif :-\\\

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gbw
08-16-2020, 01:28 PM
No link? No video? No pictures?

What was the point of going there? https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif :-\\\

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Ha! Riding fast and shifting a lot, of course!

They did have a pro photographer there. We should have actual pictures of us on the track to post in the few weeks.

gbw
08-21-2020, 10:45 PM
As promised, a few shots of us ripping around the track

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50252931443_34bed6a04c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jyFpJt)IMG_0386 (https://flic.kr/p/2jyFpJt) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50253589936_87834a8b86.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jyJMtN)IMG_3598 (https://flic.kr/p/2jyJMtN) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50253766362_d22a934e51.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jyKFVC)IMG_3734 (https://flic.kr/p/2jyKFVC) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50253588621_ae72867509.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jyJM68)IMG_3768 (https://flic.kr/p/2jyJM68) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50253766797_30f4edf6f1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jyKG48)IMG_3652 (https://flic.kr/p/2jyKG48) by Greg White (https://www.flickr.com/photos/184309811@N03/), on Flickr

Joe Nardy
08-22-2020, 08:05 AM
I'm glad to hear the day went well and everyone went fast and shifted a lot. Most importantly, there weren't any mishaps or injuries. I had hoped to make it up for the track day this year but we were too busy getting settled into our new digs. We've been so busy that I hadn't even been on a motorcycle since last year's track day. I did manage to get out for a ride the Sunday before the track day. I rode the tedious and boring 21 miles to the top of Deal's Gap then rode the Dragon both ways before riding the Foothills Parkway both ways (including the very nice new section that I hadn't ridden before). Then I suffered through the 17 miles of 129 back to our house. I was home by 1 pm. It wasn't a track day and to say I was rusty would be a huge understatement but it sure is nice to have great roads close to home after a lifetime of living in the flatlands.

thanks,
Joe