Honda/Nissan/(Mitsubishi) merger

[Cipher]

That article kind'f explains how and why Nissan is struggling, didn't say much how and why Toyota is going the opposite direction.

Did Ghoson's loss impact this? Nawwwwww.

[Nessism]

I linked an article on Toyota to start the thread. Here is another.

Toyota targets more hydrogen vehicles than solid-state EVs by 2030

There are two hydrogen refueling stations inside 4 miles of my home. And I live in So. Calif, where population density is high.

I'm a big supporter, but it would majorly suck to have to deal with driving so far just to fill up. Unfortunately, it's the chicken vs. egg situation; hydrogen filling stations won't be built until there are more users, and since there are few stations, people don't want to buy the cars.

[GS1150Pilot]

That article kind'f explains how and why Nissan is struggling, didn't say much how and why Toyota is going the opposite direction.

I linked an article on Toyota to start the thread. Here is another.

Toyota targets more hydrogen vehicles than solid-state EVs by 2030

[rphillips]

That article kind'f explains how and why Nissan is struggling, didn't say much how and why Toyota is going the opposite direction.

[Cipher]

My '80 KZ650 had the exact same toolkit as the '81 Nissan Bluebird.
My 1981 TA40 Celica had a Yamaha stamp on the head casting.

Iirc Yamaha was the supplier for intakes on the taurus SHO. Complex hq casting.......all plastic now......

[Big T]

One auto analyst described Nissan as " a third tier finance company that also sells cars. If your credit was so bad that every other dealer turned you down, you can still buy a Nissan"

I remember Nissan for great cars and trucks in the 80s and 90s, especially their race cars.


I expect the Japanese government is involved with financial help

[GS1150Pilot]

What happened to Nissan? Back in the 80's and 90's Nissan and Toyota were pretty well thought of as equal. It seems for the past 20 yrs. Toyota has been moving up and getting more and more popular and sought after while Nissan has been kind'f declining and backing up.... Has this happened everywhere, or is it just in my area?

What went wrong at Nissan?

[Nessism]

I am waiting to see what comes of Toyota's investment here. Toyota has been far less committed to complete EVs than some other manufacturers.

Toyota's Upcoming Hydrogen-Powered 5.0 V-8 Engine Has The Potential To Bury EVs

Toyota has been hesitant on the full EV front. And I don't blame them. Internal combustion engines are their history, so trashing that must be very difficult for them. And Honda, maybe even more so. They make some of the best lawn equipment, generators, boat engines, and of course, motorcycles.

[Grimly]

I'm so old, I still call it Datsun!

I remember the ferocious rate at which they rusted away. Hardly surprising, the earlier shipments were carried as exposed cargo and badly waterproofed. That, combined with the thinner steel than all the Euro manufacurers used, meant that wings and tailgates were literally falling off in three years.

[Brendan W]

My '80 KZ650 had the exact same toolkit as the '81 Nissan Bluebird.
My 1981 TA40 Celica had a Yamaha stamp on the head casting.

[dgates1]

I had a Maxima with a badge on the back that said "Datsun by Nissan" on it. Must have been 1982 or 1983 model. Rear wheel drive with the inline 6 cylinder.

[rphillips]

Datsun, Probably few here remember them. I bought a new "Nissan" 720 pick-up 40 yrs. ago back in 1984, less power than anything I ever drove, later heard they changed to fuel inj. in 1985 and that helped the power a lot. No clue how much earlier they changed from Datsun but I do remember them. Very strange this comes up now. As, I don't remember how but this came up this morning down at the store. We were talking about a neighbor that we all remember bought either the last yr. of the Datsun or the first yr. of the Nissan truck. No clue which he had nor what yr. it was. We never figured it out. What's the odds this odd ball subject came up twice in the same day

[Rob S.]

I'm so old, I still call it Datsun!

[rphillips]

What happened to Nissan? Back in the 80's and 90's Nissan and Toyota were pretty well thought of as equal. It seems for the past 20 yrs. Toyota has been moving up and getting more and more popular and sought after while Nissan has been kind'f declining and backing up.... Has this happened everywhere, or is it just in my area?

[GS1150Pilot]

I am waiting to see what comes of Toyota's investment here. Toyota has been far less committed to complete EVs than some other manufacturers.

Toyota's Upcoming Hydrogen-Powered 5.0 V-8 Engine Has The Potential To Bury EVs