A few questions about a 78' GS 1000

[badfish]

Hello, This is my first post here and am looking to get a few questions answered. They cover a few different areas so I'm guessing this is the best place to post. So...here it goes!

This is a 1978 GS 1000. No badges on the side covers. Is there any way to determine what model it is? Title only says GS1000.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadzshutter/8363910256/

Does this appear to be a stock seat? I have searched google images and have only seen 1 other one like it.

Should the motor numbers and vin numbers be matching? My guess is yes but in all honesty they don't match. They both start with "GS1000-" but the last 6 digits are different. (FYI: title numbers match the frame numbers) I did not realize this until after I purchased.

Any ideas on how to get the gas cap open without a working key? Ignition key works with ignition and seat...but the tank is different.

Although the pipe isn't shown in the photo, it has a 4-into-1 setup. Did V&H stamp their pipes? I have not crawled under it to look for any stampings yet (cold garage cement floor!)

Sorry about all the questions at once. I have owned many bikes but this is my first GS. I couldn't pass up the price! I bought it as a non-running project. It's mostly all there except the stock airbox and obviously the pod filters. Starter clutch was apart but it's back together now.

[chuck hahn]

Its an E model. The tank is a 79 and the tailpiece is a 78. The tank shoul also have the indentation down the side. Seat is missing the grab rail and I couldnt see the pattern to tell if it has the 78 pattern or the 79/80 pattern. The true 78s were distinct in that the seat apttern and the indentations and seat patterns were for that year ONLY and only for the C and E models.

C models had wire rims and only 1 front brake caliper. E models were mags and 2 front discs.

As for matching numbers..nope. Suzuki took whatever the next engine in line was and stuffed it in the next frame in line..no matching numbers.

http://www.ozebook.com/compendium/suzi/engine-nos/engnos.htm

[chuck hahn]

E model


I have since added the seat grab rail and the emblems. I took this picture just after i got the body wrok back from the painter.

[chuck hahn]

My C model..still need to get the new cover, which is available at PIT REPLICAS by the way. I sent them my original covers and they duplicated them so now the E ( stepped seat ) and C ( flat seat ) are now readily available.

[chuck hahn]

Look on the rim of the lock cylionder and see if there is a 3 digit number...thats the key code. Tell the locksmith the year and model and that number and he can make you a key. get an extra and keepm it in your wallet in one of the card slots. K&N put their part numbers on the back of the hanger bracket at the muffler..so to read it you have to remove it and look for it. They can reference that number for the proper baffle too.

[Guest]

Your seat is not stock, it has been modified, a type of 'corbin' seat as they are called. More of a racing setup. The bike actually looks like it's been modded for a bit more speed ie; 4 into 1 pipe, corbin seat, straighter handle bars, pods if it had them. Even has drilled front rotors, and maybe a chromed swingarm unless that is aluminum paint. Looks like a nice find.

[BassCliff]

Hi Mr. badfish,

Somewhere on one of the locks on your bike should be a 3 digit number. Any good locksmith can use that number to cut another Suzuki blank key. There are eBay sellers who sell keys too, pre-cut, just give them your number.

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[badfish]

Thanks for the quick info!

As for the seat, I'll snap a few pics and you guys can look it over.

The swingarm is chrome BTW

As for what I need to see if the thing will run:

Flywheel bolt (missing in action!)

Battery

Pod filters

New ignition switch (old one turns but it's bad)

And I'm sure a carb cleaning, but probably a rebuild and sync.

Headlight bucket (i wasn't surprised when I took mine apart to find the words "78 GS 750" in bright yellow junkyard paint marker written on the inside)

Lots of elbow grease and patients!!!

[hampshirehog]

Don't worry about the 750 headlamp being wrong for a 1k. The 550, 750, 850 and 1000 8 valve bikes (excluding the L models) all shared the same headlamp.

[badfish]

Good to know about the headlight bucket! Leaves me some options for finding a non-broken one!

I'm guessing the oil cooler is aftermarket? I'll need to construct a mount for it. The zip tie holding it on is less desirable!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadzshutter/8365015093/

Here is the seat.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadzshutter/8366087860/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadzshutter/8365017579/

And here is the exhaust. Please dont pass on the info on the hi-tech exhaust holder. Yes...thats a hose clamp er' up!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shadzshutter/8365013907/

As you can see I have some work ahead of me!

[chuck hahn]

there should be 2 holes right in the frame threaded for the mounting of the cooler..if theres a flanged plate at the top of the coils you can just drill 2 holes for bolts to pass thru and use the regular hard points on the frame. look right below the bottom edge of the headlight area and youll find the 2 holes i am talking about. let me know you found them. Lockhart coolers should already have the mopunting holes in the top plate.

That looks like some kinda car thing..beat to hell too so i would question its core integrity anyway.

[chuck hahn]

Get a foam from someone here, use the existing pan and strip it all down. Glue the right foam to the pan with Contact Cement. Get the new cover from Pit Replicas..and be sure to specify that you want the "1978 GS1000E STEPPED SEAT COVER'.

[Big T]

Wow, you've got some real POS (previous owner syndrome) going on there

Some derusting is in order

That seat isn't stock, but it looks OK. Is it comfortable?

That "Oil cooler" looks like a heater core for a pick up truck. As Chuck notes, actual oil coolers have an L bracket across the top and that bolts to those two holes in the frame

[Frank Z.]

That's a cool looking seat!

[chuck hahn]

Frank...I hope that was sarcasm. I think I have seen a seat that is actually uglier than a Corbin.