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    530 gearing ?

    well last year ran best of 11.16 @11.18 mph with 15 /42 gearing with stock 1100 motor with rs36 thinking of trying 15/47 or 15/48 what do you think

    #2
    I don't know crap about drag racing but what rpm are you pulling through the traps?
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      #3
      at 11.18MPH i would suggest you have it severely over geared!!!!!! (just kidding, lol)
      1978 GS1085.

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        #4
        As I understand it, your goal is to be right at redline in top gear as you cross the finish line.

        If you were not yet at that point, add a tooth or three to the rear sprocket. Repeat as necessary.

        We have several racers on the forum, I'm sure if they see this, they can speak from experience.

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          #5
          Tom,
          If you have a 530 set up then 15/42 is to tall for the drag strip. I was at 15/48 when I ran a 10.62 @ 124 mph with my stock GS motor. This weekend I going to run with a 15/45 set up this weekend to see if it works any better. If it works better then I am going to go to try a 17/50. which is what I think will work best but my 17t countershaft won't be here in time for this weekend. I want to go with the 17 countershaft for 2 reasons one being it is the same diameter as the 15 in a 630 and it will allow the chain to have more clearance around the swingarm. The 17/48 is equal to stock gearing.
          Come on down to South Georgia and play with us at the all bike race at SGMP
          Last edited by stetracer; 04-06-2014, 10:59 AM.
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          85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
          88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
          98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
          90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
          06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
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            #6
            hey ill txt you pics of the gunfighter seat im building be done painting the tail in about ten minutes .see if you can post up . would love to go to GA cant take time off work .working union butt might get laid of by aug or sept then ill have time

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              #7
              Tom,
              I think I have an extra 530 48t rear sprocket for the GS and early GSXR wheels that I am not using right now so if you want to try it before you buy one
              My stable
              84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
              85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
              88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
              98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
              90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
              06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
              00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

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                #8
                sure thanks . the track is open at newEngland dragway today but the high is 48 deg think asphalt to dam cold . think ill try around the end of April.

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                  #9
                  I like to convert to the numerical ratio and work off of that. 630/530/520/428 that puts all the chain sizes on equal reference-
                  divide driven by drive. ie; 15/45 is 3.0 to 1

                  a stock liter GS engine (2 or 4 valve) will run all out in the quarter at 3.5 but good luck launching it without wheelie bars. this is where the compromise begins MPH-VS-ET.
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                    #10
                    closes i can get is 15/52 = 3.47 or 16/56 =3.50 i will try it

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                      #11
                      I am using my 750 on street and track (road course) can someone help me on changing the gearing for the 530 pitch vx the 630. need around 140 mph at red line top gear. what do you think???? Can the sprocket from Z1 18 front work on the 78' GS 750's

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steve View Post
                        As I understand it, your goal is to be right at redline in top gear as you cross the finish line.

                        If you were not yet at that point, add a tooth or three to the rear sprocket. Repeat as necessary.

                        We have several racers on the forum, I'm sure if they see this, they can speak from experience.

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                        Actually the goal is to get to the finish line in the shortest time.

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                          #13
                          You are correct however, you do not want to run out of gear on the straights. 1/4 mile drag is not my thing so I need a taller gearing. any help please, maybe a 2 teeth lower from std on the 78 630 but need 530 chain and sprocket

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by verticalroll View Post
                            I am using my 750 on street and track (road course) can someone help me on changing the gearing for the 530 pitch vx the 630. need around 140 mph at red line top gear. what do you think???? Can the sprocket from Z1 18 front work on the 78' GS 750's
                            Your stock gearing converted to 530 is a 17/47. When converting to 530 set up I like to keep the counter shaft close to the same diameter. The 15T 630 counter shaft sprocket is the same diameter as a 530 17T sprocket. If you do this you will retain all the original chain clearances. To figure your correct gearing you would need to make some practice passes to see where your top speed is now your stock gearing 15/41 in the 630 allowed your bike to top out at 125 mph and I am not sure that the stock bike was pulling it to red line in 5th gear at that 125 mph so to get to your goal of 140 should be real with just a few mods which you might have already done. Every tooth you change you rear sprocket will effect your top speed by about 2.5 to 3 mph. To set up your bike gearing for what you are wanting to do I would start with the stock gearing 17/47 and see what the bike does for top speed and how it still drives out of the corners. Because every time you change the rear sprocket you change how the bike drives out of the corners also not just the top speed. So you want to find a happy middle ground between your 140 mph back stretch speed and good pull out of the corners. When you have been racing for awhile you will end up with a 16,17T countershaft sprockets and a 45, 46, 47,T rear sprockets. Just one gear ratio is just not going to work for all tracks or all bikes what mods have been done matter a lot or all riders. Rider riding style matter big time.
                            I do some drag racing and I have a 14, 15, 16, 17T counter shaft sprockets and 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, and 52T rear sprockets for my bikes to get the correct gearing for each bike and motor build. I am lucky that all my bikes use the same sprocket bolt patterns except for my Bandits with the GSXR1000 wheels and the one with a Busa wheels they use the same pattern as each other. The GS 1100/1150 bikes use the same bolt pattern as the Suzuki Bandit 1200 just not the same gear ratio. I am not sure what the swap is for your model is but Z1 should be able to hook you up.

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                            My stable
                            84 GSX1100EFG-10.62 @ 125 mph 64'' W/B.
                            85 GS1150-9.72@146mph stock W/B.
                            88 GSXR1100-dragbike 9.18@139.92mph/5.68@118mph.
                            98 Bandit 1200-9.38@146mph/6.02@121mph.
                            90 Suzuki GS 1425cc FBG Pro Stock chassis 5.42@124mph
                            06 GSXR750 10.44@135mph
                            00 Honda elite 80 pit bike

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by posplayr View Post
                              Actually the goal is to get to the finish line in the shortest time.
                              This is an interesting statement.

                              Yes, in road racing, you want the bike right at or under redline at the end of the longest straight in top gear. You don't want to be bouncing off the limiter as bikes are going by you, and you don't want to be geared unnecessarily high for starts. Assuming that doesn't totally wreck your gearing choice for some other corner.

                              But drag racing? I would assume you'd want as low of gearing as you could get away with because the launch is so important. On the other hand, if you're wheelieing hard, or shifting too early, I can see how this could slow you down.

                              I have a 530 setup with a 17 tooth front and a 48 or 45 rear. I ran the 48 with my 1100 motor and did a 11.5 at 118. But I have no idea what my RPM was across the line. I have the 17/48 still on the bike. I also have a 190/70-17 rear.

                              I thought the 1100 and 1150 transmissions are the same ratios. True?
                              Am I going to hit the redline before I cross the line?

                              I guess I can take the 45 tooth rear and some wrenches with me.

                              -Kevin

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