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just nabbed a mint 99 marauder. stock pipes are WAY to quiet

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    #31
    Originally posted by JJ View Post
    That is a silly myth
    great deduction work there sherlock. you must have gotten valedictorian with that level of intelligence. read the whole thread it's already been discussed. we are past this.

    let me clairfy with an example like steve did.

    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    For those who might subscribe to the "Loud Pipes Save Lives" theory, I have a personal experience.

    I met a guy who rode a motorcycle and had that "loud pipes" mentality. I found out that he was also a paramedic, so I asked him:
    "Bill, you drive a medic squad. It's a HUGE truck. It has lots of flashing lights. It has a siren. It has air horns. Does anyone ever pull out in front of you?"
    "Oh, yeah, it happens all the time."
    "Then please tell me exactly how a louder putt putt putt pointing to the BACK will keep people aware that you are coming up to them?"
    "Uhhh, I think I see your point."

    .
    now you know what, im willing to bet LESS people pull out infront of him. if me being obnoxious too 100 people alerts 1 inattentive driver then it is worth it. (think it goes without saying even though all you old geezers imply that it doesnt, that my life is worth more then your not hearing a loud sound. even if it's only a .0000000001% that it will help me stay noticed)

    also people seem to think sound travels at 80 mph or something. the speed of sound is around 760 mph, that sound will reflect and travel forward faster then you travel. otherwise you would literally only hear a siren behind the ambulance even with them having forward facing sirens. now is it AS loud in front of as in back of? no. but my other points make this one irrelevant.

    so to clairfy again, loud pipes OCCASIONALLY save lives, the rest of the time they ether sound awesome or annoying based on your personal opinion. and you are all entitled to your own, just dont go posting nonconstructive criticism in this thread, go rant to your significant other or your dog, they atleast fake caring about what your talking about.


    EDIT: also another point, let say i want to alert everyone? not just cagers? i have a family member who almost killed a kid because their bike was stock baffled and the kid ran into the road because he didnt hear them coming, luckily his passenger was quick thinking and pushed the child back so he didnt continue running out under the rear tire. so i'd love to hear one of you say it was good he had it quiet and your reasoning behind it in that instance.
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      #32
      Take your azzz somewhere else if you cant handle being ridiculed.
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        #33
        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
        Take your azzz somewhere else if you cant handle being ridiculed.
        i can handle it madam. why do you think i keep this going? i find this entertaining to russle your jimmy's

        but WHOA watch out, chuck says i should leave. but why chuck? then i would not be blessed with your truly riveting insight!

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          #34
          Not going to waste time on another thread that degraded into loud-pipes-sh!tposting, so, summarily:

          - A google search will help you more than enough to get heightened sound levels without being a complete ass to everyone around you, i.e. slip-ons and stuff.
          - To achieve complete asshattery, no forums are needed at all, just a hacksaw and stuff
          - db scale is logarithmic, each additional db roughly double as loud to the human ear. So 5db-10db would be quite significant and possibly reach a-hole level.

          P.S. An interesting observation for those who are refraining from voicing their opinion in these threads; compare the tone, attitude and socioeconomic status (as far as it can be deducted or has been told) of the proponents, opponents and those searching for a middle ground.

          P.P.S. I'm all for having some sweet exhaust sound, above stock levels, as long as it's within reason. Reason in most jurisdictions being law, thankfully. (which in my country, recently got nerfed down to 70ies stock level, because some idiots exploited a legal loophole and went way beyond acceptable. Once again, a few ruining it for everyone else).
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            #35
            Originally posted by boredinmemind View Post
            and ok, lets say im doing it to be obnoxious, (kind of like you arguing with me when im just trying to find some information) who cares? is there a law against being obnoxious? making laws to protect peoples sensibilities or to not offend is ridiculous.
            Actually, in some districts, there are ordinances against noise and specifically against loud exhausts.

            With that said, you may find the best solution is to keep your stock pipes intact and find a set of aftermarket pipes. Most are a little louder than stock. That way you can sell your stock pipes and offset some of the cost of the new pipes. Just make sure you don't live near me.

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              #36
              Originally posted by boredinmemind View Post
              i can handle it madam. why do you think i keep this going? i find this entertaining to russle your jimmy's

              but WHOA watch out, chuck says i should leave. but why chuck? then i would not be blessed with your truly riveting insight!
              You do need to back it down several notches. You are offending the very people whose knowledge you need. You won't get any takers for the "loud pipes" slogan. It's never been supported by definitive data. You've clarified your wishes, been given some suggestions, and should now merge with the proverbial traffic.
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                #37
                Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View Post
                You do need to back it down several notches. You are offending the very people whose knowledge you need. You won't get any takers for the "loud pipes" slogan. It's never been supported by definitive data. You've clarified your wishes, been given some suggestions, and should now merge with the proverbial traffic.
                ok your right to a point.

                your wrong in the fact that,
                i havent been offending the people whom have been reading the post, and giving a reasonable and polite response, because they arnt just coming on to a post to start some loud pipes war. (because all of you who said anything other then constructive criticism about why loud pipes might be bad. are really just trolling, otherwise what is the legitimate reason for posting negativity in the manner done? and if i havent made it clear, peoples thoughts of entitlement to no loud sounds DONT COUNT IN MY BOOK. especially since im not trying to break the law)

                i dont expect any takers for a slogan, i expect people to see my logical reasoning for wanting my bike louder and not post their unhelpful, boarderline disrespectful comments in my thread seeking real knowledge.

                so yes i will take the high road and not post anymore rederic about how im appearently a bad person for expecting common human decency.


                p.s. i get your trying to make peace but when i see old geezers who are so stuck in their own ways so much that other peoples ways are immediately considered (even inlight of giving sound reasoning) unacceptable, and that they are unable of conceding a point themselves, it makes it harder to be the bigger man about it.

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                  #38
                  Did you try the bafflectomy?
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boredinmemind View Post
                    if i havent made it clear, peoples thoughts of entitlement to no loud sounds DONT COUNT IN MY BOOK.

                    i dont expect any takers for a slogan, i expect people to see my logical reasoning for wanting my bike louder and not post their unhelpful, boarderline disrespectful comments in my thread seeking real knowledge.

                    so yes i will take the high road and not post anymore rederic about how im appearently a bad person for expecting common human decency.
                    First of all, my post was not boarderline disrespectful. It was blunt. There's a difference.

                    So, in the same post, you state that you couldn't care less about anyone else wanting peace & quiet, but for some reason, you feel entitled to 'common decency'. This double standard is par for obnoxious losers with loud pipes; they feel they deserve every conceivable consideration, while offering none. There's nothing unique here.

                    It's not that anyone's out to get you; you're just experiencing the uniform civil reaction to a horse's ass.
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                      #40
                      Bored, have you even considered that those who aren't responding to this garbage of a thread are doing so because we really don't want to waste our proverbial breath on your ridiculous notion?
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by glib View Post
                        Do you use earplugs when you ride?
                        I have tried them and appreciate the difference, but don't use them all the time.

                        Why do you ask?

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                          #42
                          For what it's worth I swapped out the obnoxiously load drag pipes I had on my 1500 for a V&H 2-1. It was still really loud so I grafted on a SuperTrapp baffle which made it a lot quieter. It rumbled nicely but was nowhere near as stupidly load as the stock V&H baffle....

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                            #43
                            Close up.....

                            Intruder with V&H and ST baffle.jpg
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Steve View Post
                              I have tried them and appreciate the difference, but don't use them all the time.

                              Why do you ask?

                              .
                              The subject of obnoxious noise reminded me of a thread on earplugs. Some like to hear their exhaust along with everything else. Some, like me, like to avoid damaged hearing. You hadn't commented so I was curious.
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                                #45
                                Wow. Over exhaust noise? I haven't seen this side of my forum buddies. I have 2 really quiet ones and 2 really loud ones. Haven't saved a life yet.
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