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    I carry a little bottle of Rain-x to add to the visor if I think I'm going to get wet.i don't know how long it lasts, but it last longer in storage than a tater.

    I also use the Pinlock insert, and like Scott, it's the glasses fogging that really gives me fits. I wonder if I could find a way to put a second layer behind the lenses for an anti fog effect. Eh. Not enough of a problem, I guess.
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    I figure beading up and blowing off is as good as it'll get on a helmet without a wiper and a good product would ideally do this below 50 or 60 mph!...

    Otherwise There are devices that fit to gloves..I tried a simple one using a piece of bicycle innertube with variable results but, it helps a bit per saturating a leather glove or wiping dubbin from the same on your shield....

    Potato was a fail for me. Simoniz real pastewax (not spray) works better..but beads stay on at low speed so wiping off with glove wears off the wax.

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    RainX need be the special kind FOR PLASTIC ... the car stuff degrades the coating on face shields. Without digging mine out, it may even say so on the bottle too..

    The NEW lemon pledge is (from their site)said to be ok on plastics. It should say so on the label...(I still have a 1974 can of Pledge around but it's formula has been changed since then and so I won't use it on my faceshield-the label does not indicate)

    Inside, I have the pinlock insert and No glasses so controlling fog inside is generally ok . The helmet can be cracked SLIGHTLY too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorminrider View Post
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    RainX need be the special kind FOR PLASTIC ... the car stuff degrades the coating on face shields. Without digging mine out, it may even say so on the bottle too..

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    My bottle of Rain-X says to apply to exterior glass. The rest of the label is too beat up to read, since it's been in the left pannier for about 10 years. My HJC doesn't have any special coatings that I know of. If it was tinted or photochromic I think I'd be more nervous about the solvents in whatever cleaners or additives I use with it. Sadly, I haven't taken a visor to the full five year life of a helmet. I think the closest I ever got was about 4 years, and that visor was fine. But then, It's not like I like in the UK or the PNW and need to keep Rain-x on it continuously.
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    I find a smidge of ventilation works well for keeping the misting up at bay, but there's always the drift of spray droplets that get in sooner or later. Today's vented helmets are much better than the old torture bowls of yesteryear.
    Apart from that, if you're out in the murk long enough it will inevitably get clarried up, necessitating a stop and a clean.
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    I have used rain x on my shoei on the outside and rain x antifog on the inside without harm chipping peeling fading discolouration or any rash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorminrider View Post
    ... I'm paranoid about scratching or disturbing the coatings on the visor because they are expensive to replace ... but I worry about the visor a little....when you get microscratches or swirls, it can make a night ride scary
    Just a tip for anyone with a visor or a windshield: Only wipe the plastic UP AND DOWN, NEVER side to side or in circles.

    The science behind that thought: the reason your ride can get scary is because light reflects off all the little microscratches and swirls. Light tends to reflect in a predictable manner, usually toward the same direction, but opposite angle. Most of the lights seen at night come from above the horizon. If they encounter a horizontal scratch, they are going to reflect back UP, which happens to be in your eyes. If they were to encounter a vertical scratch, they will reflect down, away from your eyes. Circles might sound like a good alternative until you realize that the top and bottom of every circle is somewhat horizontal.

    Never wipe a dry piece of plastic, even with a wet cloth. I carry a wet microfiber cloth in a zip-lock bag in the saddlebag. There is actually a considerable amount of water in the bag, too. When I stop (fuel, meal, whatever), I open it up and lay it on the windshield. By the time I am done fueling, I will go ahead and wipe the (now softened) dead bugs off the windshield. If nobody is waiting for the pump, I will go ahead and apply a light coat of wax.

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    When my visor gets covered with bugs, I remove it and wash it in the kitchen sink. I use a tiny bit of dishwashing soap and my fingers - never a cloth. I dry it by waving it in the breeze. If there's a few drops of water left, I use a tissue.

    Riding in fog and rain? That was in my 20's - 40 years ago. But I understand the need for transportation if you don't also own a Cadillac.

    Just don't do all the things I did in my teens and early twenties: on angel dust with an underage female passenger, 115 mph in the rain, etc., etc., etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Just a tip for anyone with a visor or a windshield: Only wipe the plastic UP AND DOWN, NEVER side to side or in circles.

    The science behind that thought: the reason your ride can get scary is because light reflects off all the little microscratches and swirls. Light tends to reflect in a predictable manner, usually toward the same direction, but opposite angle. Most of the lights seen at night come from above the horizon. If they encounter a horizontal scratch, they are going to reflect back UP, which happens to be in your eyes. If they were to encounter a vertical scratch, they will reflect down, away from your eyes. Circles might sound like a good alternative until you realize that the top and bottom of every circle is somewhat horizontal.

    Never wipe a dry piece of plastic, even with a wet cloth. I carry a wet microfiber cloth in a zip-lock bag in the saddlebag. There is actually a considerable amount of water in the bag, too. When I stop (fuel, meal, whatever), I open it up and lay it on the windshield. By the time I am done fueling, I will go ahead and wipe the (now softened) dead bugs off the windshield. If nobody is waiting for the pump, I will go ahead and apply a light coat of wax.

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    per Steve's..
    Just a tip for anyone with a visor or a windshield: Only wipe the plastic UP AND DOWN, NEVER side to side or in circles
    excellent point and what manufacturers recommend too...I suppose too it's that the circular scratches are gauranteed to scatter light in all directions!
    When my visor gets covered with bugs, I remove it and wash it in the kitchen sink. I use a tiny bit of dishwashing soap and my fingers
    yeah, fingerprints do seem to awful good "rubbers" with dishsoap...maybe because skin has just the right softness in water....

    I open it (wet cloth)up and lay it on the windshield.
    This is one I do try to practise on my windjammer screen:the hardened bug-guts still need a bit of motion but easing their exoskeletons off before any wiping is probably the main thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cipher View Post
    I have used rain x on my shoei on the outside and rain x antifog on the inside without harm chipping peeling fading discolouration or any rash
    hmm That's interesting..I have a bottle of the Car stuff I really want to use up but per the info I've read, I 've hesitated, and yet... the Rainx especially for plastic seems to get indifferent reviews.

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