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    #16
    How about a Kawi Concours 1000? Plenty of them for a grand, decent bike. 1986-2005-ish when it was replaced by the 1400.
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    09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
    1983 GS1100e
    82\83 1100e Frankenbike
    1980 GS1260
    Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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      #17
      I've looked at concours and while certainly capable, to me they have all the styling appeal of a cardboard box.Just on styling alone I'd do the GK first.

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        #18
        I have quite a bit of experience on Goldwings --Having owned at least ONE of each starting with the GL1100

        Depending on what your goal is -- each version of the Wing may offer differing results --

        2 up Touring for Long Miles -- 1988 thru 2000 the GL1500 is the ticket _ have had 2 of them in my garage - only put 161,000 miles on the Blue one before I moved up
        Final drives required maintenance when changing tires - Carbs need to be RUN - but they were never off my bike -
        parts around for anything -

        Integrated luggage WITH Sporty handling -- GL1200 1984 thru 1987
        - BEST Wing I owned (until I bought my GL1800) EVER -
        Hydraulic Valves - low maintenance - oil/fuel/ filters -- RIDE -
        I DID have a stator go out It was about $600 for a dealer to do it
        Change the oil - use regular DINO oil not synthetic

        SPORTY long range rider -- GL1100 - 1980 thru 1983
        I had the 1980 version - LOWER gearing - Higher Top End and Quicker -
        Find a standard and add bags and a windscreen IF you want
        Carbs jobs are a PIA (to remove the bank) and to get BALANCED -
        But if you can do a GS - you can do the GL1100 Wing.
        Currently in the Stable :
        2002 Honda Goldwing GL1800 Sunburst Pearl Orange
        1983 Suzuki GS850 GL Blue & Black

        " I am never lost until I run out of fuel...until that moment I am EXPLORING."
        - Carl R. Munkwitz

        Munk's Maxim: "There is no such thing as a cheap motorcycle"

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          #19
          Loved my 850, has the smaller vetter quicksilver and gk bags/trunk. Too small for two up. The 15 is the cats behind for two, but she is a portly one...
          Dee Durant '83 750es (Overly molested...) '88 gl1500 (Yep, a wing...)

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            #20
            Leaning it down to the best GK I can find or 84-7 GW. In 86 my next door neighbor bought a new GW fully loaded so I rolled the 1100E red GS that I have now over to his driveway to compare.I couldn't believe all the doo dads he had on it.This thing made my GS look like a moped.Stereo,air suspension huge dashboard screen and heat and air vents and I believe adjustable seats with backrests. Color matched helmet.Astounding to a guy like me used to non essentials and max speed.He left in middle June for a trip to New Mexico and made it back late August with lots of good stories. Sounds like fun.

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              #21
              I've kept my eye out for a GK for years. They pop up from time to time. There was a nice one here in Santa Fe a while back that got away as I couldn't act soon enough. The GK is still on my "someday" list if it works out.

              Here's what a Craigslist search came up with.





              Not sure what will become of the Venture I was gifted last week. I haven't had time to do anything with it yet.
              Roger

              Current rides
              1983 GS 850G
              2003 FJR 1300A
              Gone but not forgotten 1985 Rebel 250, 1991 XT225, 2004 KLR650, 1981 GS850G, 1982 GS1100GL, 2002 DL1000, 2005 KLR650, 2003 KLX400

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                #22
                What year is the venture?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by red1100 View Post
                  What year is the venture?
                  It's an '89 Venture Royale Model XVZ13D with 54,500 miles on it.
                  Roger

                  Current rides
                  1983 GS 850G
                  2003 FJR 1300A
                  Gone but not forgotten 1985 Rebel 250, 1991 XT225, 2004 KLR650, 1981 GS850G, 1982 GS1100GL, 2002 DL1000, 2005 KLR650, 2003 KLX400

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View Post
                    2nd gear on big Yamahas is pretty inevitable. My XS11 had to have that repaired, and the VMax I owned had already had it done.
                    Looking through the service records for my 2003 FJR, apparently it has already had the transmission rebuilt. This was in 2012 and the bike only had 23k miles on it.

                    The dealer's shop repair order says "it makes a sudden slip in second gear while accelerating hard".

                    Long list of parts, $675
                    14hrs of Labor $1,035

                    Ouch!

                    My only peave about the FJR's shifting is the rough clack it makes going into first gear while stopped. I try to avoind that whenever possible. Not sure if it hurts anything, it just makes me cringe.
                    Roger

                    Current rides
                    1983 GS 850G
                    2003 FJR 1300A
                    Gone but not forgotten 1985 Rebel 250, 1991 XT225, 2004 KLR650, 1981 GS850G, 1982 GS1100GL, 2002 DL1000, 2005 KLR650, 2003 KLX400

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Burque73 View Post
                      My only peave about the FJR's shifting is the rough clack it makes going into first gear while stopped. I try to avoind that whenever possible. Not sure if it hurts anything, it just makes me cringe.
                      That was one of the fun parts of my Sportster. CLANK! "Don't pussyfoot around, take your left heel and stomp me into first!"
                      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Burque73 View Post
                        My only peave about the FJR's shifting is the rough clack it makes going into first gear while stopped. I try to avoid that whenever possible. Not sure if it hurts anything, it just makes me cringe.
                        Have you seen Mr. Bill lately? Next time you see him, have him shift his Spyder into gear.

                        I thought there was something wrong with my wife's Spyder, but have learned that they ALL do that.
                        Probably similar to Rob's Sportster, but I haven't been near one lately for comparison.

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                        mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                        hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                        #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                        #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                        Family Portrait
                        Siblings and Spouses
                        Mom's first ride
                        Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                        (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                          #27
                          My friends '07 venture royal stopped shifting altogether. The spring on the shift drum detent broke. Have to remove right saddlebag and the entire right side exhaust just to get the clutch cover off.
                          Dee Durant '83 750es (Overly molested...) '88 gl1500 (Yep, a wing...)

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                            #28
                            '07 is a V-twin, right? Not sure if that would be any easier than the V-4, just not sure when the V-4 Venture ended.

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                            mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                            hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                            #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                            #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                            Family Portrait
                            Siblings and Spouses
                            Mom's first ride
                            Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                            (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                              #29
                              Yamaha supposedly fixed the trans problem in 85 after serial# 0001413.So anything after that must be operator error.

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                                #30
                                Well tomorrow I'm picking up an 86 Cavalcade with 56,000 miles. Supposedly everything working runs and rides. $500. Looks nice. I'll have more info by tomorrow night.

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