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    GKs aren't bad and I would go for the right one but they seem like a tarted up G instead of a designed tour bike. I have the year wrong on goldwings but I'm thinking about the 82,3,4 maybe when they to the full size frame mounted fairing and integrated lowers and bags/trunk.As far as maintenance and repair on the cavalcade I haven't found any issues that would be any worse than goldys constant carb problems that went till 87 or the devastating transmission problem on all Royal Ventures which Yamaha didn't fix till midyear 1987. Google the serial number to see if yours was fixed.Haven't checked Kaws yet but will shortly.Plus I have a self imposed limit of $1000. Working or repairing something in my shop is no issue.It.s great retirement fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burque73 View Post
    I was just given a Venture yesterday. It's going to need work to get it running again, but is in pretty good shape. I just couldn't resist a FREE bike WITH a title.
    Free with title is a good way to go. Hopefully the inevitable repairs don't make up for the (lack of) purchase cost.

    Red mentioned a transmission problem. It's true. The thrust washer that pushes second gear into place wears out. It starts with second gear occasionally slipping back out on heavy throttle, eventually it won't stay in gear at all. Replacing that thrust washer fixes the problem, but it's about $700 in parts and gaskets. The lower case needs to be removed, but the engine can be removed from the frame intact, flipped over, then the lower case removed. My son's '83 had that problem. When we sold the bike, the buyer knew about the problem and how to fix it. I talked with him about a year later, he was still riding it by winding it out a bit in first gear, then shifting to third.

    Valve adjustments are a PAIN. Carb rebuilds are even worse. Good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimly View Post
    GL1500s are the same. Half the day removing /refitting plastic for an hour's work on the bit you need to.
    My friend loved that part of the GW Owner Experience.
    I have had my Wing for about 15 years now, and have only had the opportunity to add about 95,000 miles to the odometer. It currently reads about 188,000. During that time, I can count on the fingers of ONE hand how many times I have had to remove more than a couple pieces of "Tupperware". You have to remove TWO pieces just to access the dipstick to check the oil. Fortunately, they use virtually no oil, so it's not an everyday experience. Access to the air filter is a bit more involved, takes about 20 minutes to get there, a few minutes to clean/change the filter, then about 30 minutes to put it together. Again, not done very often (every couple of years?), so it's not a problem. Changing spark plugs requires other panels to be removed. I changed the original plugs with about 120,000 miles on them, I'm still running the replacements.

    Yes, juggling the Tupperware is a problem at times, but it simply doesn't happen very often, so it's not a problem.


    Quote Originally Posted by red1100 View Post
    GKs aren't bad and I would go for the right one but they seem like a tarted up G instead of a designed tour bike. I have the year wrong on goldwings but I'm thinking about the 82,3,4 maybe when they to the full size frame mounted fairing and integrated lowers and bags/trunk.
    Honda came out with the Interstate fairing for the GL1100 in 1980. That continued through '83. It looked sort of like a Vetter Windjammer with Honda styling touches. The saddlebags were also optional, and were added to the bike, much like those on a GK. The fully-integrated fairing and saddlebags appeared in 1984 on the GL1200. 1984 was also the last year that you could buy a naked Goldwing. Starting in 1985, ALL Goldwings came fully-dressed.

    Quote Originally Posted by red1100 View Post
    As far as maintenance and repair on the cavalcade I haven't found any issues that would be any worse than goldys constant carb problems that went till 87 ...
    Carb problems on Wings were not Honda's fault. Much like the neglect of any other bike, it's usually just a matter of keeping them clean. The GL1000 did have problems with carburetion. They were trying to improve ridability while still meeting the changing EPA rules and changed every year, playing with carb size and jetting, finally getting it right with the '80 1100.

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    I've talked to 3 guys here local about the trans problem and the one that had no problems has been using synthetic since new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red1100 View Post
    I've talked to 3 guys here local about the trans problem and the one that had no problems has been using synthetic since new.
    The Venture I had didn't have that problem either just as there's first generation Honda Magna owners that never had problems with the camshaft or 90's Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 owners that never had the plastic oil pump gear break. A common problem doesn't necessarily mean it's inevitable, just be aware of it while you shop and be prepared to take care of it if/when it pops up down the line.
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    2nd gear on big Yamahas is pretty inevitable. My XS11 had to have that repaired, and the VMax I owned had already had it done.
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    How about a Kawi Concours 1000? Plenty of them for a grand, decent bike. 1986-2005-ish when it was replaced by the 1400.

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    I've looked at concours and while certainly capable, to me they have all the styling appeal of a cardboard box.Just on styling alone I'd do the GK first.

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    I have quite a bit of experience on Goldwings --Having owned at least ONE of each starting with the GL1100

    Depending on what your goal is -- each version of the Wing may offer differing results --

    2 up Touring for Long Miles -- 1988 thru 2000 the GL1500 is the ticket _ have had 2 of them in my garage - only put 161,000 miles on the Blue one before I moved up
    Final drives required maintenance when changing tires - Carbs need to be RUN - but they were never off my bike -
    parts around for anything -

    Integrated luggage WITH Sporty handling -- GL1200 1984 thru 1987
    - BEST Wing I owned (until I bought my GL1800) EVER -
    Hydraulic Valves - low maintenance - oil/fuel/ filters -- RIDE -
    I DID have a stator go out It was about $600 for a dealer to do it
    Change the oil - use regular DINO oil not synthetic

    SPORTY long range rider -- GL1100 - 1980 thru 1983
    I had the 1980 version - LOWER gearing - Higher Top End and Quicker -
    Find a standard and add bags and a windscreen IF you want
    Carbs jobs are a PIA (to remove the bank) and to get BALANCED -
    But if you can do a GS - you can do the GL1100 Wing.
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    Loved my 850, has the smaller vetter quicksilver and gk bags/trunk. Too small for two up. The 15 is the cats behind for two, but she is a portly one...
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    Leaning it down to the best GK I can find or 84-7 GW. In 86 my next door neighbor bought a new GW fully loaded so I rolled the 1100E red GS that I have now over to his driveway to compare.I couldn't believe all the doo dads he had on it.This thing made my GS look like a moped.Stereo,air suspension huge dashboard screen and heat and air vents and I believe adjustable seats with backrests. Color matched helmet.Astounding to a guy like me used to non essentials and max speed.He left in middle June for a trip to New Mexico and made it back late August with lots of good stories. Sounds like fun.

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