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    #61
    Jules, just an opinion based on very little experience, but, if I had wheels not designed for tubeless operation, I wouldn't try to use them without tubes. I know that people do, but I wouldn't. I understand your desire to run tubeless. What are the chances you could fit newer wheels on your bike, ones that were designed to run tubeless?
    Rich
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      #62
      This interesting discussion has been going on for 40 yrs. It will probably never end because there is neither a wrong answer nor a right answer. The folks who are comfortable running tubeless are satisfied & the folks who are not comfortable with tubeless put tubes in & they are also satisfied. I never remember a poll about this issue but it would be interesting, I'd guess appx. 50% to 50%..... I do think that this time I've seen more info. about the special bits to make a flat surface for the tubeless stem gasket to seat on, back in the day, we never knew of anything like that, we just put the tubeless stems in & forgot about it. Like said earlier a poll would be very interesting & show great info.
      1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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        #63
        @Rich82'..."they are really sealed? without the POP" Main thing is to check the thin line near the rim. It need be "equidistant" from rim. Or, you will feel a badumpabump riding on it if it wasn't obvious when you spun the tire to balance it...(which it often is- I clamp a stick near a spinning tire to see).

        My limited experiences tell me Certain tires on that early Suzuki tubeless rim don't pop. Avon roadrider in my experience on that particular rim. You may have another there.
        Much to my own suprise,Pull ties do help sometimes, but maybe more so on less rounded tire profiles... but warming the tire helps on every tire I've mounted since I started warming them.

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          #64
          Originally posted by ukjules View Post
          Arghhh I'll stick a tube in it as it is meant to be.
          Too much hassle p^%$&ng about.

          My only concern was due to the massive
          rides I do around europe ..... if I didnt
          do this I would even think of this as a question
          worth asking.

          I'll carry tube sealant spray and
          rely on the AA (break down people).

          avon road rider with tube it is.
          That'll be fine. Tube tires worked fine before tubeless were invented and you do have an old bike. Maybe an interior sealant left in the innertube would be the way to go. Or the emergency air+sealant specifically for tubes. Consult and read up on these.

          But consider too that you can meet the nicest people during breakdowns, and, if everything goes perfectly, who will care to listen to your stories?

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            #65
            Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ View Post
            Jules, just an opinion based on very little experience, but, if I had wheels not designed for tubeless operation, I wouldn't try to use them without tubes. I know that people do, but I wouldn't. I understand your desire to run tubeless. What are the chances you could fit newer wheels on your bike, ones that were designed to run tubeless?
            That's the way I feel. Many will dispute.
            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

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              #66
              Still not got the front wheel off....

              The decision is made .... as I cant find
              the correct bit exactly to flatten
              the valve area for a tubeless tyre valve
              its gonna be tubed tyres and I'll never think
              of this again.

              A shame the ebay m8*15mm counterbore which apparently is not good enough as
              1mm out. Need m8 * 16mm so good on here.
              I'm gonna just go for the tube.
              Avon road rider says on tyre it
              can be used with tube.

              I must say if I ever found such a counterbore
              in uk I'd prob use it as making area flat
              takes such a small amount of metal off it
              makes no difference and you have another option
              if your stuck.

              if anyone in uk does know where to get this
              counterbore thing do post !!!!!
              UKJULES
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              Owner of following bikes:
              1980 Suzuki GS550ET
              1977 Yamaha RD 250D
              1982 Kawasaki GPZ 750 R1
              1980 Suzuki GSX 250E

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                #67
                If it's still bothering you so much, take the rim to a machinist.
                Otherwise, reaming a land "without the "proper tool"can't be so awfully difficult....off the top of my head...a wood spade drill bit, a router bit..these'll cut aluminum if you buy two or can sharpen one. Not this particularly, but I've often had to resort to such work-arounds.

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