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    The Federal Trade Commission ruled in favor of the owners right to repair vehicles, machines and whatever else breaks down..

    Definitely a win for the average person and independent repair shops of all kinds
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    How and when was this in question?

    I thought that issue was settled a LONG time ago.

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    Settled a long time ago??? I didn't know there ever was anything to settle, never knew it had ever been an issue.
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    I was surprised last week when I read it was coming to court again, as I thought it was settled in favour of the car owner years ago in the US. I know the auto makers in the EU had been rebuffed when they tried to influence the making of laws to make it compulsory for car owners to use franchised garages or main dealers and that meant the smaller back-street auto repair places would be out of business, also outlawing home repair by all, whether competent or not.
    However, in both areas, you can be sure the auto-makers haven't given up on this.
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    Well, it started with farm equipment and then heavy equipment and Tesla and so on.

    It's been going on for years, manufacturer s claiming that their trade secrets, and computer codes, would be violated
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    Which would essentially boil down to ownership becoming nothing more than a lease of sorts, if the manufacturers won.
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    The farm industry mainly combines and large tractors manufacturers have refused to let their owners in to the computer controlled systems. Like on your car you can plug into your diagnostic port and read trouble codes, and change settings. Farmers have been locked out. Today's farm equipment is a marvel of electronics, GPS guided self driving harvesters, and then all the electronic engine controls. Not to mention planting by GPS automated systems, and then all the other machine functions. Farmers have traditionally repaired their equipment, some even having advanced repair knowledge with welding and machine shop equipment on the farm premises.

    Everyday automobiles have areas where the owners are locked out of the electronics. Now days you can buy gray market Chinese made devices to hack these lockouts. The manufacturers still are not forthcoming with tech info made to help techs making repairs on these limited systems.

    Then there is Tesla, they wont sell parts unless they install them. They limit functions like super fast charging you need on trips if you get on their crap list. The list includes any car that the owner has worked on, or any car that was perceived by the onboard computer system to be damaged in any way. Yes your own onboard computer busts you, and some cars Tesla just says you need to buy a new car that one isn't one we will work on. So many times Tesla refuses to repair certain vehicles/issues, and then to refuse to unblacklist the vehicle. Then there is Rich.

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    I've watched a bunch of Rich, the Tesla Guy's videos. Despite having little to no interest nor aspirations of ever owning a Tesla, I love this guys attitude and spirit, and his content and delivery are top notch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GS1150Pilot View Post
    Which would essentially boil down to ownership becoming nothing more than a lease of sorts, if the manufacturers won.
    Do you see a correlation there to corporate health care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by earlfor View Post
    Do you see a correlation there to corporate health care?
    That would rank well up on the list of insightful comments you have made on GSR.
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