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    #16
    [QUOTE=trevor;2664330]Youi being from Ontario may have heard of a friend of mine Kevin Blackmore....raced at Grand Bend...he died at his own hand some years ago (depression)...there is a Blackmore memorial weekend now at Grand Bend Motorplex

    He used to say "trevor, anyone can go fast with wheelie bars, it takes talent to go fast without".
    And trust me, he was fast. Sorry...but a 550 under no circumstances needs a wheelie bar.





    with bracket racing a wheelie bar would help me a lot to keep being consistent. just because some of us cant always do the same launch everytime doesnt mean there are other ways to help. i have broken my left wrist a few times so slipping the clutch isnt easy for me expecially when at the strip trying to launch at 9500 rpms lol and why not start out with a wheelie bar on a smaller bilke and stay consistent and than worry about slowly going faster and faster?? thats how i have always gotten better start slow and progress when ready. rather than go balls out on a 9 second bike and not be able to handel it safely and consistant. and seriousy, how many people bracket race a gs550??? its cool too.
    1978 gs550e "drag bike"
    1979 gs550l 1st bike
    1981 gs650gl cruiser
    1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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      #17
      Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
      Trevor, maybe you missed the part about this being bracket racing?
      It would help his consistency, and consistency is the whole game.
      So a wheelie bar gives you consistency? What does the rider do?
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        #18
        Originally posted by trevor View Post
        So a wheelie bar gives you consistency? What does the rider do?
        its a tool to help with consistency. its not that hare of a concept to see is it? there is some of us that axctually see the worth in tools to help get the job done. if you wanna keep bashing wheelie bars or me personally racing a 550 than stay off this post to let the people who want to help help. dont need your negative thoughts for no reason. just a guy here starting to get into drag racing so positive help is welcome. have a good day
        1978 gs550e "drag bike"
        1979 gs550l 1st bike
        1981 gs650gl cruiser
        1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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          #19
          Originally posted by Darthjames21 View Post
          its a tool to help with consistency. its not that hare of a concept to see is it? there is some of us that axctually see the worth in tools to help get the job done. if you wanna keep bashing wheelie bars or me personally racing a 550 than stay off this post to let the people who want to help help. dont need your negative thoughts for no reason. just a guy here starting to get into drag racing so positive help is welcome. have a good day
          Just asking...I'm actually planning on drag racing my k1300R and my GSXS1000F on Sept 12th....no wheelie bar...I guess I'm not that serious. Cheers
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            #20
            Originally posted by trevor View Post
            Just asking...I'm actually planning on drag racing my k1300R and my GSXS1000F on Sept 12th....no wheelie bar...I guess I'm not that serious. Cheers

            ok well good for you. i did my 1st event with no wheelie bar and i strugled with wheelies coming up too high. dont know if i mentioned that. thats another reason i wanted to go to a wheelie bar. also again, its my daily street bike, not set up much at all for the track,
            1978 gs550e "drag bike"
            1979 gs550l 1st bike
            1981 gs650gl cruiser
            1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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              #21
              Originally posted by trevor View Post
              Just asking...I'm actually planning on drag racing my k1300R and my GSXS1000F on Sept 12th....no wheelie bar...I guess I'm not that serious. Cheers
              No.....
              You are just not bracket racing, which is much more difficult than just going fast.
              Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
              '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                #22
                Racing Slick Tire, The Wheelie Bar, and a Air Shifter.
                You Pre Stage, you bring your rpm's up to about 7,000 At this time you want to get comfortable, position your feet to where you want them.
                Roll forward a few inches, then your staged.
                Next, the amber lights start coming down to GREEN
                You open the throttle wide open and let the clutch lever fly!
                The rear tire grips the track. The front wheel comes off the ground till the Wheelie bars catch it
                Your rpm's are coming up because you're in first gear. You stab at that Air shifter button to get it into second gear!
                You tuck in and wait to hit third fourth and fifth gear.
                In fifth gear you can look around a bit to see where your competitor is at. If you have them beat, you can back off the throttle to prevent braking out. If you don't have him beat, you stay tucked in and hope he runs quicker than his dial in time.
                That's something how I remember doing it. 👍
                My Motorcycles:
                22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
                22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
                82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
                81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
                79 1000e (all original)
                82 850g (all original)
                80 KZ 650F (needs restored)

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by storm 64 View Post
                  That's something how I remember doing it. 
                  Exactly....except I ran a 1-2-3 auto, with a slider....but still......I sure miss it.
                  Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                  '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                    No.....
                    You are just not bracket racing, which is much more difficult than just going fast.
                    How so? I'm not trying to be difficult, just want to know...cheers
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                      #25
                      i have thought about an air shifter but i gotta get over my fear of wheelies and be able to launch, altho if i deside to decatate this bike to just bracket racing its deffinnalty getting an air shifter. my 1-2 shift is good, my 2-3 shift is my problem. i knoestly think its a trans issue tho. from what a lot of other people who do bracket racing tell me after you get your times very close every time than start slowly maiking your bike faster and faster.
                      1978 gs550e "drag bike"
                      1979 gs550l 1st bike
                      1981 gs650gl cruiser
                      1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by trevor View Post
                        How so? I'm not trying to be difficult, just want to know...cheers
                        Trevor, bracket racing is all about consistency.
                        You have to know the time you will run, and a consistent launch is key.
                        And wheelie bars help your launch be consistent. A two step and slider clutch also help.



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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                          Trevor, bracket racing is all about consistency.
                          You have to know the time you will run, and a consistent launch is key.
                          And wheelie bars help your launch be consistent. A two step and slider clutch also help.



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                          When I dragged raced years ago, when I was 18...I remember you had to submit a time that you thought you would run and then the lights were set accordingly to the guy you were racing. Is that bracket racing? I know I had to be very close to the time I had set.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by trevor View Post
                            When I dragged raced years ago, when I was 18...I remember you had to submit a time that you thought you would run and then the lights were set accordingly to the guy you were racing. Is that bracket racing? I know I had to be very close to the time I had set.
                            Yup....that's the jist of it. Close but not faster....
                            Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                            '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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                              #29
                              basicly bracket racing is saying a time that you will be trapping at or close to without going faster. so say like me for example last event i was running about 14.7 and i was saying id run 14.65 so i never went faster than my said time and the 9 second sled leaves the line after a few seconds delay to make it so both our times crossing the fininsh line are as close possably, and who ever gets to the finish line 1st wins. its a lot of fun and very difficult to keep times constent if the launch is never the same. my trouble was/is launching. so wheelie bar would be a big help once i dial in the launch using it for help. i also just figured out my fzr600 rear swing arm will fit, slight modd of the frame axle bolt hole needs wideing, and ill be able to run a drag slick on the fzr600 rim. rather than the street tire im running. im running a dunloup d1404 and it does stick to the track but its still a street tire.
                              1978 gs550e "drag bike"
                              1979 gs550l 1st bike
                              1981 gs650gl cruiser
                              1981 gs250t "race track pit bike"

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Darthjames21 View Post
                                basicly bracket racing is saying a time that you will be trapping at or close to without going faster. so say like me for example last event i was running about 14.7 and i was saying id run 14.65 so i never went faster than my said time and the 9 second sled leaves the line after a few seconds delay to make it so both our times crossing the fininsh line are as close possably, and who ever gets to the finish line 1st wins. its a lot of fun and very difficult to keep times constent if the launch is never the same. my trouble was/is launching. so wheelie bar would be a big help once i dial in the launch using it for help. i also just figured out my fzr600 rear swing arm will fit, slight modd of the frame axle bolt hole needs wideing, and ill be able to run a drag slick on the fzr600 rim. rather than the street tire im running. im running a dunloup d1404 and it does stick to the track but its still a street tire.
                                Yup, you get it. Good luck.
                                I bracket raced a low 9 sec 1100E for several years, both box and no box. It ain't easy.
                                Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
                                '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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