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  • Joe Nardy
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    Spoke Question

    I'm looking for spokes for a '78 GS1000 front wheel. They are discontinued by Suzuki and not available. However, spokes for a '78 GS750 are available. I know the GS750 had steel rims while the GS1000 had aluminum rims but I believe the hubs are the same. If so, shouldn't the GS750 spokes work with the GS1000 wheel. Both rims are 19 inches.

    Also, I measured my spokes, they are 190mm from the middle of the hub flange to the top of the dimple on the rim. There is roughly 6mm from the top of the rim dimple to the bottom of the spoke nipple so I would guess the spoke length would be around 194mm. Unless the steel rims are much thinner/thicker or have a significantly different drop center I would think the GS750 spokes would work just fine.

    If anyone happens to have a 19" GS front wheel or spokes laying around and could take some measurements I would appreciate it greatly.

    Thanks,
    Joe
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  • tkent02
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    #2
    I have both wheels to look at…….
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

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    • Joe Nardy
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      #3
      Originally posted by tkent02
      I have both wheels to look at??.
      Thanks! That would be a great help.

      Joe
      IBA# 24077
      '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
      '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
      '08 Yamaha WR250R

      "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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      • Joe Nardy
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        #4
        Tom presented another good point, the wire size. My spokes measure about 3.16mm in diameter.

        Thanks,
        Joe
        IBA# 24077
        '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
        '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
        '08 Yamaha WR250R

        "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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        • Joe Nardy
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          #5
          Mr. Wazz was kind enough to take measurements from his '77 GS750. The measurements appear to be nearly identical to the measurements I took from the '78 GS1000 wheel, including the spoke wire diameter. I verified that the hubs are the same part number between the two. I went ahead and ordered the '77 GS750 spokes. I will post up when I receive them and compare to the GS1000 spokes.
          IBA# 24077
          '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
          '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
          '08 Yamaha WR250R

          "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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          • Sandy
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            • Feb 2004
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            #6
            Joe, I'd like to how that works out. I've got a set of rear spokes and should pick up some fronts for my parts stash.
            '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM)

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            • Joe Nardy
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              #7
              Originally posted by Sandy
              Joe, I'd like to how that works out. I've got a set of rear spokes and should pick up some fronts for my parts stash.
              Sandy,

              Will do. I'll post results here once the parts arrive.

              Joe
              IBA# 24077
              '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
              '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
              '08 Yamaha WR250R

              "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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              • FLHGSRay

                #8
                How much are these? I ask because I found out SS spokes from Buchanan weren't any more than chromed steel from the dealer.

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                • bwringer
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by FLHGSRay
                  How much are these? I ask because I found out SS spokes from Buchanan weren't any more than chromed steel from the dealer.
                  Sort of what I was wondering, too -- are you going for an excruciatingly correct Suzuki-factory-parts-only sort of thing here, Joe?
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                  • Big T
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                    #10
                    Ray and Sandy

                    Some members have suggested that the Yamaha XS 650 uses the same spokes and that you can get them from MikesXS

                    http://www.mikesxs.net/products-56.html#products

                    I see that he offers plated and SS versions

                    He also has rims at a great price, it seems

                    Shoot him an email

                    (Ray, I have no affiliation with Mike)
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                    • FLHGSRay

                      #11
                      The only thing about buying custom is that they will likely have to be trimmed to length after installation. Not a big deal with a Dremil. Buchanan supplied spokes for my cl350. They were very helpful with making sure the length was right. Top quality.

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                      • Joe Nardy
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by FLHGSRay
                        How much are these? I ask because I found out SS spokes from Buchanan weren't any more than chromed steel from the dealer.
                        Front spoke set for '78 GS750, part number 55320-45000 - $53.66 from Boulevard Suzuki. $7.50 shipping.

                        Buchanan's does not list prices for GS spoke kits (no longer pre-packaged) but Kawasaki KZ kits range from $104 to $115 so I'd guess GS pries would be around the same.

                        Thanks,
                        Joe
                        IBA# 24077
                        '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
                        '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
                        '08 Yamaha WR250R

                        "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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                        • FLHGSRay

                          #13
                          When I priced stock spokes for the Honda from the dealer, they were like $4 each. That's times 72. Ouch.

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                          • Joe Nardy
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big T
                            Ray and Sandy

                            Some members have suggested that the Yamaha XS 650 uses the same spokes and that you can get them from MikesXS

                            http://www.mikesxs.net/products-56.html#products

                            I see that he offers plated and SS versions

                            He also has rims at a great price, it seems

                            Shoot him an email

                            (Ray, I have no affiliation with Mike)
                            I measured the GS spokes, checked with Mike's and asked if they had anything similar. They said the closest was a set for a 64 spoke Heritage Special. However, the description for the spokes said there were two different lengths each for outer and inner spokes. The GS wheel has 36 spokes so I would need to use two each inner and outer of different lengths. I replied to them and asked how much the difference in length was but haven't heard back from them yet.

                            Thanks,
                            Joe
                            IBA# 24077
                            '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
                            '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
                            '08 Yamaha WR250R

                            "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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                            • Sandy
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                              #15
                              Well that would be handy because I want order the emulators for the XS650 as I have adapters to fit them to my GS that Bluewool kindly set me.

                              Originally posted by Big T
                              Ray and Sandy

                              Some members have suggested that the Yamaha XS 650 uses the same spokes and that you can get them from MikesXS

                              http://www.mikesxs.net/products-56.html#products

                              I see that he offers plated and SS versions

                              He also has rims at a great price, it seems

                              Shoot him an email

                              (Ray, I have no affiliation with Mike)
                              '84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM)

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