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  • 93Bandit
    Forum Mentor
    • Nov 2018
    • 839
    • Mundy Twp, Michigan

    #1

    Woes of selling things...

    Just wanted to gripe for a min. I'm trying to sell my project 81 850 and basket case 750.

    I've had 2 people ask me to rebuild the starter so they can do a compression test on the 850, so they can make sure they "aren't getting screwed". Now maybe I'm just an old grump so correct me if I'm wrong, but a 41 year old machine that is non-running and is listed as a project in the ad and has an asking price of $500OBO is just a machine you buy if you want it and deal with the stuff that's broken. It ain't a brand new machine yet I get the impression these people expect it to be. It's 41 years old, and is under $1,000, and is complete. If it were me, I'd decide if I want it or not, show up with a trailer and make an offer and leave because I understand that even if compression is good, there's a whole bunch of other work needed anyways and it's a PROJECT... In fact, that's exactly what I did when I purchased both.

    Am I just a grump???
    - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
    - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten
  • Rich82GS750TZ
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    • Jun 2018
    • 5634
    • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

    #2
    I’d sure want to know if I was buying a bike with a seized engine or not, regardless of price. Compression numbers would be extra assurance. Might be just what you need to get a tire kicker to bite. Then again, I’ve never bought or sold a used motorcycle.
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    • Big T
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      • Mar 2005
      • 12414
      • West Slope, OR

      #3
      You can turn the motor over with the nut at the ignition cover
      1978 GS 1000 (since new)
      1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
      1978 GS 1000 (parts)
      1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
      1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
      1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
      2007 DRz 400S
      1999 ATK 490ES
      1994 DR 350SES

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      • Grimly
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        • Sep 2012
        • 5802
        • Ireland

        #4
        All they have to do is connect their own compression tester and push the bike in gear for a few yards.
        Not exactly rockety science.
        Dave
        '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
        Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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        • steve murdoch
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          • May 2004
          • 8507
          • St. Catharines, On.

          #5

          As to whether you are a grump or not i can't say but those tire kickers should be kicked to the curb.
          2@ \'78 GS1000

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          • 93Bandit
            Forum Mentor
            • Nov 2018
            • 839
            • Mundy Twp, Michigan

            #6
            Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ
            I’d sure want to know if I was buying a bike with a seized engine or not, regardless of price. Compression numbers would be extra assurance. Might be just what you need to get a tire kicker to bite. Then again, I’ve never bought or sold a used motorcycle.
            well yeah, I'd like to know if it's stuck as well. But it's clearly not stuck and you don't need a compression test to determine that. Maybe I am a grump? I just figure an old machine like this is gonna get torn down eventually anyways so if it's cheap I don't worry too much about it.
            - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
            - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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            • Rich82GS750TZ
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              • Jun 2018
              • 5634
              • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

              #7
              Just trying to look at it from buyer's POV. I don't think you're a grump. But you are trying to sell something. If the only people that will consider giving you money for the bike want to see compression numbers first, maybe consider it if it's doesn't put you out too much. I never heard of Grimly's idea, but makes sense "All they have to do is connect their own compression tester and push the bike in gear for a few yards." Rebuilding the starter would be out of the question, for me, if I were the seller.
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              • tom203
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                • Aug 2010
                • 8925
                • Norway,Maine

                #8
                Skip rebuilding…..just get a used eBay starter and swap it in…easy on 850 IIRC. ….and up the price to compensate for your trouble.

                1981 gs650L

                "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                • dorkburger
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 10782
                  • Stupid Freehold Boro NJ

                  #9
                  If I was selling something at what I considered to be at or near giveaway price, I'm not going out of my way to make repairs for a tirekicker.
                  When I looked at my 1150, I went in knowing that it had sat for 12 years. I brought a battery along, dropped it, in and made sure it cranked and didn't make any awful sounds.

                  Selling things online definitely gets ridiculous at times.
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                  • 93Bandit
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                    • Nov 2018
                    • 839
                    • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dorkburger
                    If I was selling something at what I considered to be at or near giveaway price, I'm not going out of my way to make repairs for a tirekicker.
                    When I looked at my 1150, I went in knowing that it had sat for 12 years. I brought a battery along, dropped it, in and made sure it cranked and didn't make any awful sounds.

                    Selling things online definitely gets ridiculous at times.
                    Precisely my point.

                    The biggest reason I'm trying to get rid of them is because of the space they take up, and the fact that I'll probably never get around to them.

                    Maybe I'd have better luck parting them out?
                    - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                    - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                    • ddaniels
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5591
                      • Dayton, OH

                      #11
                      You're selling them because you don't want to have to deal with them right? rebuilding the starter is sort of dealing with it, no? I'd say no on rebuilding the starter for them. Just let 'em make an offer as they sit and decide if you'll take it.
                      Current Bikes:
                      2001 Yamaha FZ1 (bought same one back)

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                      • 93Bandit
                        Forum Mentor
                        • Nov 2018
                        • 839
                        • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ddaniels
                        You're selling them because you don't want to have to deal with them right? rebuilding the starter is sort of dealing with it, no? I'd say no on rebuilding the starter for them. Just let 'em make an offer as they sit and decide if you'll take it.
                        Exactly what I'm trying to do. Like I said before, I'd take a low baller as long as he shows up and hauls it off no questions asked. But these guys want to waste everyone's time.
                        - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                        - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                        • 93Bandit
                          Forum Mentor
                          • Nov 2018
                          • 839
                          • Mundy Twp, Michigan

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Big Block
                          When I bought my 1979 1000 it wouldn't turn over. I figured the starter was piled up and took the chance, Price? $500.
                          New bikes cost a bit more than $500 if that's what you want.
                          Exactly. These guys want a new bike, or at least a turn key running old bike for $500. Ain't gonna happen.
                          - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
                          - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten

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                          • Gorminrider
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                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4803
                            • British Columbia, Canada

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big T
                            You can turn the motor over with the nut at the ignition cover
                            That's what I'd do for them or tell them to do- Take the plugs out and use a drill attached to a socket. I don't blame them for asking...

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                            • Nessism
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                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35808
                              • Torrance, CA

                              #15
                              Selling stuff, more times than not, involves frustration with questions from guys that won't buy it anyway. Regarding a compression test, it's understood, by guys with experience, that a bad compression test doesn't spell doom and gloom with an old bike that's sat for a while. Anyone buying a 40 year old bike for $500, should plan to go inside the engine and renew gaskets anyway.
                              Ed

                              To measure is to know.

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