Tesla Autopilot VS Motorcycles

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  • Gorminrider
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    • Aug 2012
    • 4803
    • British Columbia, Canada

    #1

    Tesla Autopilot VS Motorcycles



    seen this? Yikes.
  • ptegsotic
    Forum Mentor
    • Jan 2016
    • 357
    • Nthn California

    #2
    this Bloomberg article explains why autonomous ( sp) driving is quite the crock (after estimates of close to 100 billion dollars having been thrown at the challenge)

    and Musk knows this but still refers to the concept being just around the corner. (he really is displaying some charlatan moves, of late.)

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

    (ie they're figuring out that homo sapien is not such a bad driver after all!)

    edit: I read this forwarded article a couple of times before being asked for subscription ...my apologies for any paywalls encountered.
    1100 Katana / 1100 ES

    pragmatic not dogmatic

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    • Cipher
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      • Mar 2016
      • 3129
      • Toronto Ontario

      #3
      But he gave me back my Twitter account
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      • Suzukian
        Forum Sage
        • Sep 2022
        • 1032
        • Connecticut

        #4
        Only you know what Musk giving you back your Twitter account really means, and you have to be honest with yourself. You don't have to tell anyone here, but just so you know.

        I've seen some people in Tesla's really driving like idiots, about the same ratio as BMW drivers. To be honest, most I've seen, you wouldn't know the difference, they drive quite normally, and even seem to be driving a bit slower, trying to conserve battery power.. I don't trust auto driving though, on any vehicle. When you get plowed into, it's one more level of deniability, and who gets charged, the idiot who was sleeping and says he was relying on the automatic system to not drive over the motorcycles or people in front of them, instead of just pushing the brake pedal? They should have their own lane, put a slot in the road, with the car pegged into it, and let the Gub.'ment drive them around till they feel adult enough to drive on their own.IMHO.

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        • Brendan W
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          • Jul 2013
          • 4931
          • Wexford, Ireland

          #5
          Originally posted by Suzukian
          They should have their own lane, put a slot in the road, with the car pegged into it, and let the Gub.'ment drive them around till they feel adult enough to drive on their own.IMHO.
          It's called a train.....

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          • Suzukian
            Forum Sage
            • Sep 2022
            • 1032
            • Connecticut

            #6
            I couldn't find the word for it, it was on the tip of my tongue. Thanks!!

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            • dorkburger
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              • Jan 2013
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              • Stupid Freehold Boro NJ

              #7
              Just search "Tesla autopilot motorcycle" and be prepared to be worried about what's behind you.
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              • Suzukian
                Forum Sage
                • Sep 2022
                • 1032
                • Connecticut

                #8
                I saw that. I hope the Teslas behind me are being driven.

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                • Cipher
                  Forum Sage
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 3129
                  • Toronto Ontario

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dorkburger
                  Just search "Tesla autopilot motorcycle" and be prepared to be worried about what's behind you.
                  This vid is sensationalist.
                  the guy suggesting we weave is absurd. I've done that for years. It sales people up.
                  also statistically the deaths mentioned are insignificant.
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                  • GS1100GZ
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                    • Sep 2021
                    • 49
                    • Greenville, SC

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cipher

                    This vid is sensationalist.
                    the guy suggesting we weave is absurd. I've done that for years. It sales people up.
                    also statistically the deaths mentioned are insignificant.
                    Unless you happen to be one of the people killed.
                    Dale

                    1982 Suzuki GS1100G
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                    • Cipher
                      Forum Sage
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 3129
                      • Toronto Ontario

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GS1100GZ

                      Unless you happen to be one of the people killed.
                      No still insignificant.
                      1983 GS 550 LD
                      2009 BMW K1300s

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                      • Suzukian
                        Forum Sage
                        • Sep 2022
                        • 1032
                        • Connecticut

                        #12
                        Did you mean "No stiff insignificant" ?

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                        • ptegsotic
                          Forum Mentor
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 357
                          • Nthn California

                          #13
                          Steve Wozniak, who co-founded Apple with Steve Jobs, said he was frustrated by Elon Musk over-promising on Tesla, describing it as dishonest.
                          1100 Katana / 1100 ES

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                          • argonsagas
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                            • May 2002
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                            • Toronto, Canada

                            #14
                            Situational awareness is important at every hour of the day, every day.

                            That said, no matter how we may wish it to be otherwise, even the most dedicated riders are not totally aware 100% of the time.

                            Many years ago I learned the value of always knowing what was in my mirrors as well as beside me or ahead of me. .

                            What was in the mirrors led to my choosing not to stop for red lights, stop signs and crosswalks on multiple occasions..
                            In those cases, the mirrors were effectively very loud voices telling me "You WILL be hit from behind ". and then the voices were proven right, as the vehicle behind me also went through the same signs, lights or crosswalks.

                            Even being aware of such things, you can still be nailed from behind, as I was when stopped on an exit ramp behind a truck at a red light, and with semi-trailers stopped on each side of me.

                            Because of the curve and the trailer in the left lane being so far back, the mirrors could not "see" the car that hit me, .

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