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  • macbec29
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    • May 2021
    • 12
    • San Jose, CA

    #1

    Oil cooler kit for 1980 GS1000?

    Any one have recommendations for a oil cooler kit for a 1980 GS1000S? It was a balmy 88 degrees here in San Jo yesterday so I took 1000S out for what was going to be its first long ride since being restored after a horrific crash. About 35 minutes in I noticed my Canadian temp gauge (centigrade) was climbing into the 150 - 180 range, which if my math is correct means 300 to 350 fahrenheit. Its just the start of the hot season here so I'm thinking I need to fix this somehow. Anybody have recommendations for a complete oil cooler kit that would fit my bike. I'm looking for something approximately 13 by 3 inches.
  • Rob S.
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    • Dec 2013
    • 9393
    • New York City

    #2
    I installed the cooler that comes on the 1150 on my '82 11E. Plug and play, but my bike was designed with one in mind: oil lines go in on either side of filter cover (which has to be modified or replaced by an 1150 one). Horns sit nicely on top corners of cooler.

    I believe you'll have to run lines around to the rear. I've seen people run them along the side, but I recommend you do like my old Z1's Lockhart: turn the cooler 'upside down' and run the lines over the top into the tunnel.

    Size is no problem, and the change was dramatic. It used to run over 300, now I can barely get it much above 200. And I liked the fact that it's all in the family.

    My 'thermostat' is a cardboard cover that I put on for winter.
    Last edited by Rob S.; 05-25-2023, 03:43 PM.
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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    • Rijko
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      • Feb 2014
      • 1445
      • Netherlands

      #3
      I like the oldschool Lockhart oil coolers.

      Whatever you choose, i recommend using a thermostat.
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      • steve murdoch
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        • May 2004
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        #4
        How deep are your pockets.
        There are some beautiful high end kits from the UK.
        2@ \'78 GS1000

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        • gtem
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          • May 2022
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          #5
          I have an original Lockhart cooler with some sort of Kerker bypass(?) unit along with the correct oil pressure switch adapter that I pulled off a '82 1100G I resurrected. Let me know if you're interested I can dig it up, clean it up and take some pics.
          Last edited by gtem; 05-24-2023, 08:23 AM.
          Past GSes: '78 1000C, '79 750E, '81 1100E
          Current: '81 GS850G, '98 GSF1200S

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          • Nessism
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            #6
            Can you post a photo of the IP? I'd like to see the Canadian spec gauge cluster.
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            • macbec29
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              • May 2021
              • 12
              • San Jose, CA

              #7
              NESSISM: I'll post some pics of the instrument cluster tomorrow.
              STEVE: I like the UK suggestion, everything in one package seems the easiest way to go, but yea that is quite a big bite out of my wallet. But as they say in the UK, in for a penny in for a pound

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              • Rijko
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                • Feb 2014
                • 1445
                • Netherlands

                #8
                Originally posted by macbec29
                STEVE: I like the UK suggestion, everything in one package seems the easiest way to go, but yea that is quite a big bite out of my wallet. But as they say in the UK, in for a penny in for a pound
                no thermostat ... not saying that's crucial but for that price i would like one included ..
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                • rphillips
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                  • Jun 2005
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                  #9
                  Would an oil cooler thermostat change anything other than possibly warm up time? I don't remember the factory oil cooled GS's had thermostats... or did they?
                  1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                  • Rijko
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                    • Feb 2014
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rphillips
                    Would an oil cooler thermostat change anything other than possibly warm up time?
                    Well, that was my point - increased wear, may not reach operating temperature when it's cold, etc.

                    Originally posted by rphillips
                    I don't remember the factory oil cooled GS's had thermostats... or did they?
                    Don't think so, and that question just stumped me.
                    Those bikes have similar amounts of oil, so total warmup time is probably the same.
                    So unless there's a design detail on those bikes i am missing like a restriction on the amount of oil that gets sent to the cooler,
                    i need to rethink what i've believed to be best practice for decades.
                    Great point, hope someone can shed some knowledge on this.
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                    • bitzz
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                      • Nov 2015
                      • 99

                      #11
                      I can't come up with any reason you would want a thermostat. Cooler oil is always a good thing, where adding complexity to your oiling system is a bad thing.

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                      • Nessism
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gtem
                        I have an original Lockhart cooler with some sort of Kerker bypass(?) unit along with the correct oil pressure switch adapter that I pulled off a '82 1100G I resurrected. Let me know if you're interested I can dig it up, clean it up and take some pics.
                        It wouldn't be hard to beat that price using Earl's parts and that adapter from member gtem. I put an Earl's cooler on my old 850, and it was a fun project. In terms of the thermostat question, as long as the cooler used isn't overly large, I don't think the system will need one.
                        Ed

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                        • rphillips
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                          #13
                          Something I just remembered, there was something different about the GS1150 oil filter covers that routed more oil through the cooler, best I remember mounting & plumbing an 1150 cooler & keep using the GS1100 filter cover, very little oil would go through the cooler.
                          1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                          • Rob S.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bitzz
                            I can't come up with any reason you would want a thermostat. Cooler oil is always a good thing, where adding complexity to your oiling system is a bad thing.
                            Technically, if your oil doesn't go over 212 degrees f (and mine doesn't), it won't burn off any water that has condensed in it.

                            Originally posted by rphillips
                            Something I just remembered, there was something different about the GS1150 oil filter covers that routed more oil through the cooler, best I remember mounting & plumbing an 1150 cooler & keep using the GS1100 filter cover, very little oil would go through the cooler.
                            Installing any oil cooler and not modifying (or replacing) the GS1100 oil filter cover is incorrect. I just bought a NOS 1150 cover.
                            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                            • bitzz
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                              • Nov 2015
                              • 99

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rob S.

                              Technically, if your oil doesn't go over 212 degrees f (and mine doesn't), it won't burn off any water that has condensed in it....
                              I betcha if you put your oil temp sensor right at the oil pump outlet you'd find much higher temps.

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