Exhaust header bolts to studs

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  • johnod
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    • Apr 2014
    • 278
    • Southern ON Canada

    #1

    Exhaust header bolts to studs

    Anyone changed the exhaust header bolts to studs?

    If so what studs ?

    Thanks
    1982 Katana 1100, 1997 HD Ultra Classic, 1996 Buell S2T, 2002 BMW K1200RS, 1969 Royal Enfield Interceptor Triton project
    New project 1979 GS1000S
    Recently sold 1979 Honda CBX1000
  • Steve
    GS Whisperer
    • Jun 2005
    • 35925
    • southwest oHIo

    #2
    Yes, some have done it.

    Since I am not one of them, I have no idea what studs were used, but I have to ask, ...
    what is your motivation to use studs instead of bolts?

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    • 1980GS1000E
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      • Aug 2007
      • 1664
      • San Diego, California, USA

      #3
      The thread size is 8mm x 1.25. Napa sells studs this size. I just used threaded rod cut to length.
      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B

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      • 1980GS1000E
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        • Aug 2007
        • 1664
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        #4
        The motivation is to stop the inevitable thread stripping that occurs with bolts into the aluminum head.
        Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B

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        • trevor
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          • Oct 2011
          • 18679
          • Victoria bc

          #5
          Originally posted by 1980GS1000E
          The motivation is to stop the inevitable thread stripping that occurs with bolts into the aluminum head.
          Exactly!!!!
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          • johnod
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            • Apr 2014
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            • Southern ON Canada

            #6
            Originally posted by 1980GS1000E
            The motivation is to stop the inevitable thread stripping that occurs with bolts into the aluminum head.
            Yep that's it.
            1982 Katana 1100, 1997 HD Ultra Classic, 1996 Buell S2T, 2002 BMW K1200RS, 1969 Royal Enfield Interceptor Triton project
            New project 1979 GS1000S
            Recently sold 1979 Honda CBX1000

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            • Steve
              GS Whisperer
              • Jun 2005
              • 35925
              • southwest oHIo

              #7
              OK, I understand that part, but it only wears if the bolts are in and out on a regular basis.

              I know that some headers require removal for an oil change, that would provide a bit of 'motivation'.

              Otherwise, the header will likely not be off more than once or twice every three or four years, I don't think there would be that much wear on the bolt holes.

              One other thing to consider: because the studs stick out farther, it will be a bit harder to wrangle the header that much farther away from the engine when you do find the need to remove it.

              .
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              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
              Family Portrait
              Siblings and Spouses
              Mom's first ride
              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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              • trevor
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                • Oct 2011
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                • Victoria bc

                #8
                Originally posted by Steve
                OK, I understand that part, but it only wears if the bolts are in and out on a regular basis.

                I know that some headers require removal for an oil change, that would provide a bit of 'motivation'.

                Otherwise, the header will likely not be off more than once or twice every three or four years, I don't think there would be that much wear on the bolt holes.

                One other thing to consider: because the studs stick out farther, it will be a bit harder to wrangle the header that much farther away from the engine when you do find the need to remove it.

                .
                I was taking mine off every year to paint...so that's why I got it ceramic coated...shouldn't have to take it off again.
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                • suzukigs1100ez
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                  • May 2015
                  • 109
                  • Marshfield, WI

                  #9
                  I was wondering this on mine since I took off to repair some leaks. I was amazing the allen headed bolts all came out

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                  • nvr2old
                    Forum Sage
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2134
                    • Sandpoint, Idaho

                    #10
                    I've also seriously considered studs. I have to remove my Yosh pipe to change the oil. Major pain in the butt. I've already chased the threads with a tap to keep them clean, but it's always a risk taking them on and off.
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                    1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                    • johnod
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                      • Apr 2014
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                      • Southern ON Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nvr2old
                      I've also seriously considered studs. I have to remove my Yosh pipe to change the oil. Major pain in the butt. I've already chased the threads with a tap to keep them clean, but it's always a risk taking them on and off.
                      And the tap chews up the threads as well.
                      1982 Katana 1100, 1997 HD Ultra Classic, 1996 Buell S2T, 2002 BMW K1200RS, 1969 Royal Enfield Interceptor Triton project
                      New project 1979 GS1000S
                      Recently sold 1979 Honda CBX1000

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                      • Gorminrider
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                        • Aug 2012
                        • 4803
                        • British Columbia, Canada

                        #12
                        I wonder whether the type of steel used is important in this application...a softer nut on a harder stud might protect the stud threads and save having to replace the stud in the future (which would be more difficult than the oem bolt).

                        I've been abe to get the oems out in every case except my practise attempts on a spare engine, so I wonder too if the OEMs should be replaced whenever removal was difficult.

                        ...and not to be anal but I like the organisation of the forum pretty well.
                        This area is to be used only for general GS topics. For non-GS related topics, join the Off-Topic usergroup. Technical questions are not to be posted here.
                        There's been a few showing up here lately

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