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  • Christopher
    Forum Apprentice
    • Feb 2021
    • 45
    • Tamworth Staffordshire

    #1

    fuel tap issues

    Hello folks any advice appreciated. I rebuilt the fuel tap on my gs850 with rebuild kit. The tap now hardly flows on prime, on, or reserve and engine wont start but overflows into engine overnight and leaks with oil from somewhere onto floor. Slight amount of petrol in oil. Dropped the oil and replaced but not sure what to do now because already rebuilt tap. The bike has just been recommisioned after sitting for a few years. I have cleaned the carbs. What to check or do next? Thanks
  • Christopher
    Forum Apprentice
    • Feb 2021
    • 45
    • Tamworth Staffordshire

    #2
    Also I have an inline fuel filter.

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    • Baatfam
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      • Jul 2006
      • 18749
      • Knoxville, TN

      #3
      You need an OEM fuel tap, (petcock), the rebuild kits don't work.

      And get rid of the fuel filter, not needed, and reduces flow.

      Welcome to the forum...
      Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
      '83 GS1100E ~ '24 Triumph Speed 400 ~ '01 TRIUMPH TT600 ~ '67 HONDA CUB

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      • rphillips
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        • Jun 2005
        • 7611
        • Norene TN

        #4
        On pri. all openings should be wide open, vacuum or no vacuum. Sounds like something didn't get put back together correctly. You may want to look in the carbs/fuel/exhaust section. There's a post down there from just a couple of days ago that may help. Like he said, you shouldn't need the fuel filter if the one on the pet cock is there & in reasonable condition.
        1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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        • Christopher
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          • Feb 2021
          • 45
          • Tamworth Staffordshire

          #5
          Hello thanks for the advice and now I see I put question in the wrong section. I cant find an oem fuel tap from Uk sources. They are available Usa ebay for over ?100 shipped and taxed. Has anyone had luck with the cheaper aftermarket ones? Can source aftermarket for ?17. Do you guys think I might have carb float valve issues aswell as the tap? Cheers Christopher

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          • Grimly
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            • Sep 2012
            • 5762
            • Ireland

            #6
            The cheap aftermarket ones are surprisingly nicely made, but they're rubbish at doing their job, with weak springs, etc.
            My 79 tank has a rebuilt (with OEM parts) petcock and it works well. The 80 bike has an adapter plate and a Harley petcock.
            Dave
            '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
            Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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            • Admiral Beez
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              • Oct 2017
              • 219
              • Toronto, Canada

              #7
              Originally posted by Christopher
              Hello thanks for the advice and now I see I put question in the wrong section. I cant find an oem fuel tap from Uk sources. They are available Usa ebay for over ?100 shipped and taxed. Has anyone had luck with the cheaper aftermarket ones? Can source aftermarket for ?17. Do you guys think I might have carb float valve issues aswell as the tap? Cheers Christopher
              I bought this one and it?s been fine for over two seasons now, through many a switch between prime, run and reserve.



              Perhaps they have a UK source?
              1982 Suzuki GS650G

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              • joe penoso
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                • Mar 2020
                • 64
                • BRAMPTON ON.

                #8
                That looks original, very good and cheap. An unusual combination.
                joepenoso

                2X 1979 GS Suzuki G

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                • Grimly
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                  • Sep 2012
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                  #9
                  The cheap ones are a total crapshoot.
                  I bought one a year or two back and while it seemed nicely made, it wouldn't shut the fuel off worth a damn. Weak spring in the diaphragm.
                  No point in fiddling around trying to cure it, as I'd never trust it, and should it fail in use, I really don't want a crankcase full of fuel or five gallons dribbling down the workshop overnight.
                  That got replaced by a strictly manual Harley aftermarket tap, on a plate adapter bolted under the tank. I'm now solidly in the habit of turning it off.
                  Dave
                  '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
                  Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                  • Admiral Beez
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                    • Oct 2017
                    • 219
                    • Toronto, Canada

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grimly
                    The cheap ones are a total crapshoot.
                    I bought one a year or two back and while it seemed nicely made, it wouldn't shut the fuel off worth a damn. Weak spring in the diaphragm.
                    No point in fiddling around trying to cure it, as I'd never trust it, and should it fail in use, I really don't want a crankcase full of fuel or five gallons dribbling down the workshop overnight.
                    That got replaced by a strictly manual Harley aftermarket tap, on a plate adapter bolted under the tank. I'm now solidly in the habit of turning it off.
                    After more than a decade riding vintage British where you always turned off the fuel tap it still rattles me when I just walk away from the GS without turning off the fuel.
                    1982 Suzuki GS650G

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                    • Grimly
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Admiral Beez
                      After more than a decade riding vintage British where you always turned off the fuel tap it still rattles me when I just walk away from the GS without turning off the fuel.
                      First bike I bought with an auto tap was an XS750, and it was great not having to remember to turn the tap off. Every bike since has come with them, but resurrecting the old habit took a little while. As I say, now it's become second nature again.
                      Dave
                      '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
                      Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                      • Kingjoel
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                        • May 2017
                        • 43
                        • Juniata, Ne

                        #12
                        Not to argue but I just installed a petcock kit from 2 fast moto ($17) and it works perfect. The diaphragm I bought first didn't work because the o-ring shaft was too short and wouldn't seal unless I bent the disc that seats in the spacer.
                        1978 GS 1000

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                        • dpep
                          GSResource Superstar
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 16174
                          • Jacksonville, FL

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Admiral Beez
                          I bought this one and it?s been fine for over two seasons now, through many a switch between prime, run and reserve.



                          Perhaps they have a UK source?
                          This particular petcock is widely available, inexpensive, and has the right bolt pattern for 80-81 850Gs. But the fuel outlet is on the back of the petcock facing inward instead of on the front facing the engine like the OEM. Has that proved to be any kind of issue with regard to routing the fuel line? My preference is to have the port where it is more visible and accessible.
                          ...
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                          80 GS850G / 2010 Yamaha Majesty / 81 GS850G

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                          • rphillips
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                            • Jun 2005
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                            #14
                            I never remember that problem, I think the back of the valves are square so the outlet can be rotated in 4 different directions. Remember, I'm not perfect, I was wrong once, so no guarantees.
                            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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                            • Grimly
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                              • Sep 2012
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by rphillips
                              Remember, I'm not perfect, I was wrong once, so no guarantees.
                              You were only wrong in thinking you were wrong that one time.
                              Dave
                              '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
                              Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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