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  • administrator
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    • May 2002
    • 1423
    • Blairsville, GA

    #1

    Thoughts about the website in general

    Recently, I've invested a ton of time reworking the code that runs the website. In the course of doing that I took a good look at the data that is being stored in the databases. I felt that this would be a good barometer to see where the website stands today, in term of site visitors, when compared to our early days. And as you can probably guess, site visits have fallen off quite a bit from the high point in the mid 2000's.

    There could be many reasons for this. One, us dinosaurs are dying off. When I bought my first GS in 1976 I was 19 years old. I'm soon to be 69 years old. And most people that bought them were a bit older. I say all this to state that our visitors are dying off. Unfortunately we can't stop Father Time.

    The next thing that comes to mind is the age of our GS's. Again, if I look our bikes, the first GS came out in 1976. That's 50 years ago. That a heck of a long time for any vehicle, never mind a motorcycle. There are less and less around. Thankfully this website and a lot of the fantastic visitors over the years, did their part in keeping them around for as long as they have.

    When I total up the contributions for the last couple of months this weekend, this will be another indicator in how well things are going. As you may or may not know, this website runs on the contributions that everyone makes. Once it ceases to be self-funding, then it shuts down. It takes about $115 a month to run it, not including the extras that come with it over the course of the year. So there is a bit of concern there. And advertising is not an option to pick up the slack. We had that in our early days. I hated it then and I really hate it now since everyone today wants to be in your business.

    One idea is to open a new forum so people can sell other bikes other than just GS's, in the forum. The reasoning being that most GS's owners may own other bikes that they want to sell. Of course I can see this segueing into a For Sale part for other bikes. We don't do that now but is that a good idea in order to be more tolerant of out old GS or ex-GS owners?

    I say this all because it's been on my mind a bit lately. Let me know what you think about all this.
  • maicojoe
    Forum Mentor
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    • Jul 2013
    • 357
    • Redmond, Washington, USA

    #2
    Hi Frank, I’m all for having a for sale category for other brands on here. Like you are saying, most all of us here own or have owned other brands of bikes, and non GS Suzuki’s. I might be a bit biased though, as I own 10 different brands of bikes 😂
    Thanks again for all your work here, keeping the GS flame burning.
    Joe

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    • Rob S.
      Forum Guru
      Past Site Supporter
      • Dec 2013
      • 9416
      • New York City

      #3
      Originally posted by maicojoe
      I’m all for having a for sale category for other brands on here.
      I agree. The more motorcycles, the better.

      But it could be a slippery slope. Mopeds, trikes, 4-wheelers?
      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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      • administrator
        administrator commented
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        I might me a bit elitist in saying it but I don't see mopeds, trikes and 4-wheelers being on this site.
    • Big Block
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      • Jun 2021
      • 77
      • Vernon B.C.

      #4
      Im okay with for sale and wanted for other bikes. There is tons of good reference material on this site and ready help when you need it. Unfortunately while I still see GSs out and about, they are becoming less relevant as daily riders. I find parts are not as easy to find as they were even 5 years ago. Lets hope the reference material stored here doesnt get lost. Enthusiasts spend more time on FB etc. but information found there is momentary and usually wrong.
      1986 1150EF
      2008 GS1250SEA

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      • marvinsc
        Forum LongTimer
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        • Apr 2005
        • 15401
        • Murray Kentucky

        #5
        I think opening the site up to non GS bikes is a great idea for all the reasons you stated plus this. I came here after buying my old 1980 GS850G but stay around because through this site and on rides and get togethers I have met some of the BEST people I know.
        sigpic2002 KLR650 Ugly but fun!
        2001 KLR650 too pretty to get dirty

        Life is a balancing act, enjoy every day, "later" will come sooner than you think. Denying yourself joy now betting you will have health and money to enjoy life later is a bad bet.

        Where I've been Riding


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        • trevor
          Forum LongTimer
          Past Site Supporter
          • Oct 2011
          • 18710
          • Victoria bc

          #6
          Maybe do some separate forum titles?
          Honda
          Suzuki
          Yamaha
          Kawasaki
          BMW
          etc etc.....

          Like others have said, thank you for all that you do to keep the best motorcycle forum going....much appreciated.
          No signature :(

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          • Nessism
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            • Mar 2006
            • 35795
            • Torrance, CA

            #7
            I don't think opening this site to sell other brands will increase traffic, other than maybe a tiny bit. It will be the same members here selling, and only members will see the ads. Most selling traffic these days is on Marketplace and Craigslist.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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            • administrator
              administrator commented
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              I agree with this to a certain point. While I don't really see having brand specific forums being a tool to increase site traffic, In my opinion that bang for the buck, or I should say the benefit to my time and effort, just wouldn't be worth there. On the other hand I do see where just adding a "any bike other than a GS" For Sale forum as being a benefit. It wouldn't be meant to compete with Craigslist and Marketplace for outsiders traffic but instead cater to the GS'ers that hang out here and own other bikes that they would like to sell. Maybe add a Wanted forum also but I couldn't see much more than that.
          • Rob S.
            Forum Guru
            Past Site Supporter
            • Dec 2013
            • 9416
            • New York City

            #8
            Originally posted by Nessism
            I don't think opening this site to sell other brands will increase traffic...
            Agreed, but I think it will make it a better site for those of us already here.
            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            • trevor
              Forum LongTimer
              Past Site Supporter
              • Oct 2011
              • 18710
              • Victoria bc

              #9
              Yes, the sales of other bike we can already do in the "other bikes" section.
              Lets do Brand specific sub forums
              No signature :(

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              • administrator
                administrator commented
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                I'm just not convinced that having model specific forums would be worth the time and trouble. For one thing ow do you break it by models and where do you stop. There are a ton of different bike models out there. I also think that things would be too segmented to be useful. For the small amount of people using it (that's my assumption anyway), I'm more in favor of just one For Sale and Wanted forum for other bikes.

                So why do you think a breakout by model is better?
            • steve murdoch
              Forum Guru
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              • May 2004
              • 8495
              • St. Catharines, On.

              #10
              Originally posted by Rob S.

              Agreed, but I think it will make it a better site for those of us already here.
              Agreed, makes sense to me.
              2@ \'78 GS1000

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              • dgates1
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                • Jun 2024
                • 356
                • Arlington, TX

                #11
                I think some more engagement on the Facebook group (and other classic Suzuki groups for that matter) would drive some traffic here. I see people asking for tips everyday on there and lots of times the advice is not really great. Sometimes it's spot on, but that usually comes from someone that is on this forum and they sometimes direct people here with a link or to the BikeCliff site.

                I don't think I've ever just seen an engagement post from the "owner" of the group whoever that is. Always just a question from someone random. Even some Reels with common problems and a link to the site/forum might help.

                Maybe some sort of standard response directing them to the forum for all posts made to the Facebook group??

                There's a lot of topics that come up all the time where all the answers are here.
                - David
                80 GS850GL, 82 GS1100G
                Arlington, TX
                https://visitedstatesmap.com/image/ARMNMTNDSDTXsm.jpg

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                • administrator
                  administrator commented
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                  Thanks for the reply. I definitely can see the benefit of reaching out via Facebook but there is that thing called time, which I suffer from a serious lack of. From my end I have to prioritize my free time. At this point it means "keeping the lights on" here. Now for anyone who frequents both TGSR and Facebook then please, do give us a mention. This website has accumulated 31 years of expertise, offering valuable insights for anyone seeking answers about GS's.
              • Rich82GS750TZ
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                • Jun 2018
                • 5592
                • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

                #12
                marvinsc and some others run the (unaffiliated as best I can tell) FB page of the same name, thegsresources.com. I and many others do try to direct folks who post questions there to here and to BikeCliff's, especially when answers form the peanut gallery get especially stupid. And boy, do they. My guess is, most of the people we nudge to visit here, may come here, but probably don't sign up, don't engage, just lurk. If you look at "Who's Online", typically its' about 10 members and about 6000 or so "guests".

                Many folks visit and post questions and items for sale/wanted on the various Suzuki, GS FB pages, I don't know how we get them to come here and engage.
                Links

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                • administrator
                  administrator commented
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                  I give you, Scott and the others two thumbs up for getting the word out there, Much appreciated!!!

                  As for getting people to engage, some just are not going to, no matter what you say or do. How do I know? My wife and I teach at Sunday School for 4th and 5th graders. Some won't participate, no matter what. Sometimes it's peer pressure (boys won't dance) and sometimes it's sheer laziness (i don't want to, I'm too tired), but it's just the way it is. But I certainly appreciate the effort!
              • administrator
                Administrator
                Charter Member
                • May 2002
                • 1423
                • Blairsville, GA

                #13
                I just wanted to thank everyone for their responses. From my end of things, being buried behind code for 2 months, it was looking like we were suffering from a lack of activity. I'm glad that I was proven wrong.

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                • trevor
                  Forum LongTimer
                  Past Site Supporter
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 18710
                  • Victoria bc

                  #14
                  Hi Frank, I'm not suggesting "model" specific but "Brand" (think Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, BMW...etc...) specific. Big difference.
                  And I think it would be quite busy area as almost everyone here that owns a GS owns another brand of motorcycle to talk about.
                  Btw why can't I quote your post?
                  Cheers
                  No signature :(

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                  • Rob S.
                    Forum Guru
                    Past Site Supporter
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 9416
                    • New York City

                    #15
                    Originally posted by administrator
                    I might me a bit elitist in saying it but I don't see mopeds, trikes and 4-wheelers being on this site.
                    Hooray! .........
                    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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