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  • argonsagas
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    Not sure where to put this....

    This article demands a fundamental look at the fundamentals of thought. and, perhaps, offers some reason why so many either do not use their native ability., or reject it.



    It is not that long a read, but the photos are necessary to "get it". so here is the link

    If we wish to tackle the very real problems society faces, we require expert-level knowledge. Valuing it starts earlier than we realize.
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    ". Expert-level knowledge is mandatory for a healthy society, and there’s no substitute."

    For the people doing the actual work I'll agree. For the general populace to understand what the experts are doing I call BS on this statement. We don't need a populace of "experts", for all intents and purposes we already have that and look at the havoc it's causing!

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    • argonsagas
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      #3
      On the surface, you are right, and I agree those words were probably a poor choice in their placement, , but they are not the substance of the article itself nor do they reflect that substance..

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      • Grimly
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        #4
        Originally posted by LAB3
        ". Expert-level knowledge is mandatory for a healthy society, and there’s no substitute."

        For the people doing the actual work I'll agree. For the general populace to understand what the experts are doing I call BS on this statement. We don't need a populace of "experts", for all intents and purposes we already have that and look at the havoc it's causing!

        The smartest person in the room doesn't know the answers, they ask the best questions.
        "We've had enough of listening to experts," was the refrain of the Brexiteers.
        And lo, the vote was cast and the experts lost, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth as the Sunlit Uplands of Holy Brexit proved to be a sham.
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        • LAB3
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          Half of the population is of below average intelligence
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          • argonsagas
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            #6
            Originally posted by LAB3
            Half of the population is of below average intelligence
            One wonders how many of that group would express certainty that they are above, or even well above, that mean average.

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              #7
              Originally posted by LAB3
              Half of the population is of below average intelligence
              As it always was and always will be....Let it be written.
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                Originally posted by Baatfam

                As it always was and always will be....Let it be written.
                I'm pretty sure someone else came up with that first, maybe I should look to see if it's copyright protected and steal it if it ain't.
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                  "Half the population is below average intelligence" kind'f seems kind'f negative. I'd rather say "Half the population are above average intelligence", it just has a more positive feel to it.
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                    I tend to take a more pragmatic approach.

                    "Is the glass half empty or half full?"

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                      Optimistic or pessimistic, nothing wrong with either, just different way of looking at things.
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                      • Rob S.
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                        I read at 11 grade level in the 5th grade (I wasn't the only one). Today, if a fifth grader can read at 5th grade level, the teacher is given a parade down Broadway.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rob S.
                          I read at 11 grade level in the 5th grade (I wasn't the only one). Today, if a fifth grader can read at 5th grade level, the teacher is given a parade down Broadway.

                          Reading was more important back then than dancing. Phil, can you find me a cabin in the woods, easily defensible? Might soon be time to buy a Mossberg and some triple aught buck.
                          Great coincidence!!
                          Thank you.

                          Yesterday was a PD day for them so I had my boys watch "The Count of Monte Cristo"
                          Movies are most definitely not the same as reading, but I wanted them to see how words were used and sentences were structured in much earlier years.People actually used FAR better language than is used today. As they heard the words spoken, that was clear to them.

                          I read the book in grade five. I was so impressed by his being precisely on time that I adopted that as a standard for myself. .

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                          • Cipher
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by argonsagas

                            Great coincidence!!
                            Thank you.

                            Yesterday was a PD day for them so I had my boys watch "The Count of Monte Cristo"
                            Movies are most definitely not the same as reading, but I wanted them to see how words were used and sentences were structured in much earlier years.People actually used FAR better language than is used today. As they heard the words spoken, that was clear to them.

                            I read the book in grade five. I was so impressed by his being precisely on time that I adopted that as a standard for myself. .
                            So you think a modern english translation of an old french novel butchered into a screenplay is a means to understanding language?
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                            • argonsagas
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cipher

                              So you think a modern english translation of an old french novel butchered into a screenplay is a means to understanding language?
                              I respectfully suggest you watch the movie, as it follows much earlier translations, and tries to use the period English language very well..
                              I assure you it is far....FAR....better than what you commonly see/hear in today's "modern" movies.

                              I recall being more than a little impressed with the language used when I read the book.
                              There was another French author, Guy de Maupassant, whose works I read that were also translated into excellent English.
                              These were some of the significant steps in my life towards gaining/building a decent vocabulary
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