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  • Burque73
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    #1

    Friendly reminder. Don't forget to flush........

    ..........YOUR WATER HEATER.

    I spent three hours on Saturday draining and flushing what looked like aquarium sand and gravel out of my water heater. It had been making knocking and popping noises for months, even after draining it. I tried turning on the water in short bursts to stir up the crud, which helped, but still it made noise. There's actually a tool for this. I probably flushed 10lbs of calcuim and crap out of there. I never saw completely clean water come out, even after hours of water on/off/air/drain and repeat...so I'll do it again soon. If I hadn't waited so many years it probably wouldn't have taken hours to do.

    Roger

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  • Buffalo Bill
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    #2
    Even a new water heater will crackle, that's the water percolating on the heating element.
    Did you replace the zinc rod?
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    • Burque73
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      #3
      Originally posted by Buffalo Bill
      Even a new water heater will crackle, that's the water percolating on the heating element.
      Did you replace the zinc rod?
      It's a gas unit. The cast iron tank shouldn't make any noise, certainly not this much anyway. It didn't for the few years we've had it, at least. Souds like a rock tumbler.

      I did not replace the zinc rod, but do plan to soon.
      Roger

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      • Rob S.
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        #4
        Are you in the Marcy projects? (Don't forget to wipe, and stay off the pipe.)

        I'm chillin.
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        • Burque73
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          #5
          Originally posted by Rob S.
          Are you in the Marcy projects? (Don't forget to wipe, and stay off the pipe.)

          I'm chillin.
          Nope, I'm on the Martinez project, tile demolition today. Pulled the sink already and stayed off the pipes. Hehe
          Roger

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          • MikeLyon
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            • Feb 2025
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            • Alton Illinois

            #6
            Originally posted by Burque73
            ..........YOUR WATER HEATER.
            . I tried turning on the water in short bursts to stir up the crud, which helped, but still it made noise. There's actually a tool for this. I probably flushed 10lbs of calcuim and crap out of there. I never saw completely clean water come out, even after hours of water on/off/air/drain and repeat...
            I just changed one out for friends aunt, she had a guy come over and try some kind of operation to break up and flush, they say the particles plugged up kitchen sink and bathroom sink faucets.

            So the guy who's in his late 70's swapped them out for her,
            The hot water heater was gas and about 30 years old and with all the sediment build up it weighed a ton, it's was kind of a chore for me to pack it out of her basement.

            I wanted to cut it open just to see the massive brick that had formed, the new one was light and easy to take down to her basement

            Bet it had forty pounds of crud built up.

            And I've yet to flush my ten year old water heater, guess I'd better.

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            • Vmass
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              #7
              If you have gas or propane and need to replace your tank, I suggest researching an on demand Navien hot water heater. The buy in is certainly more, but they are very efficient and last a long time, even when neglected. And if you happen to have an ancient boiler, consider their combi unit.....good stuff!

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              • Rob S.
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                #8
                Originally posted by MikeLyon
                I've yet to flush my ten year old water heater...
                When we sold our house, some in the neighborhood still had their 47 year old original GE kitchen appliances.
                1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                • Burque73
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MikeLyon
                  I just changed one out for friends aunt, she had a guy come over and try some kind of operation to break up and flush, they say the particles plugged up kitchen sink and bathroom sink faucets.

                  So the guy who's in his late 70's swapped them out for her,
                  The hot water heater was gas and about 30 years old and with all the sediment build up it weighed a ton, it's was kind of a chore for me to pack it out of her basement.

                  I wanted to cut it open just to see the massive brick that had formed, the new one was light and easy to take down to her basement

                  Bet it had forty pounds of crud built up.

                  And I've yet to flush my ten year old water heater, guess I'd better.
                  That would be interesting to see inside it. Not too many houses here have basements. My aunt has one, only one in the neighborhood. When the main sewer line backed up, her basement became the neighborhood sump.
                  Roger

                  '83 GS850G Daily rider
                  '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                  • Burque73
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                    #10
                    I still haven't figured out the multi quote feature on this new setup. Someday I'll dig into that and also see how to get signatures back.

                    Vmass, those on demand tankless heaters are sweet! I've helped install a few Rinnai units, haven't see a Navien. We always had to run a bigger gas line for the Rinnai. The BTU's are way more than a tank heater.

                    It's crazy that some last for 15 years and others for 50. Swapped one out for the neighbor a while back when his ruptured. It had to be at least 50 years old. Too bad it ruined the wood floor I had just installed one year prior. That was a sad day.
                    The other neighbor still has his original Lennox furnace from 1958! Surely it can't be very efficient anymore. He's 90 years old and refuses to replace it.
                    Roger

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                    • rphillips
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                      #11
                      Vmass, Everybody has different opinions. I was in the gas distribution business for a long time then retired from it. Do you use a tankless water heater? Those things use so much more gas, when running, many houses in our town had to install larger supply lines to the "Tankless" just to get enough gas to operate properly. Also the fastest I've ever seen the little hands spin on a residential gas meter was because of a Tankless water heater. Luck to the folks that have and like them, never run out of hot water, but for me, I'm out... Just my guess, within the next 6 or 8 yrs. they'll be like the solar panels on roofs 25 yrs. ago for hot water, we never see them any more.
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                      • Rich82GS750TZ
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                        #12
                        Roger, not to derail your thread, but you did mention signatures. I can see yours. If you can’t see them maybe it this:
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                        • Nessism
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                          #13
                          I'm going to buy one of those Amazon do hickies. A few years ago my hot water heater went out, and a friend, who was remodeling his house, gave me the low mileage unit out of his house since he was going tankless. Working great since, and haven't touched since. Tried to remove the anode and clean it or replace, but it was stuck fast, and I didn't want to risk breaking anything.
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                          • rphillips
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                            #14
                            That do hickie is called a sacrificial anode, appx. the same as we put on our underground steel gas lines. Supposably the anode will corrode, and sacrifice itself, to keep, or suck the corrosion off, and away from the tank (or underground steel lines). I've never changed one nor knew anybody that changed one on a water heater, but do understand how and why it should make the tank last longer. It was a big deal on our steel gas lines.
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                            • Rich82GS750TZ
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                              #15
                              We’re on a well, water quality is decent, we do have a filtration system before the water heater. I put the current water heater in about 18 years ago I think, after the old one sprung a pinhole leak. Glad I was home at the time and discovered it before it could flood the basement. I changed the anode rod in mine a few years ago after the water developed a foul odor. I do remember it being screwed in really tight. Definitely felt like I was going to break something, but it worked out. Also had to screw the new rod in really tight as well, to seal it. I’ve haven’t considered draining/flushing it in a while though. I known I should. I may get on that this weekend. I appreciate Roger’s PSA. It’s one of those home maintenance tasks that often gets overlooked, like cleaning the dryer vent. That’s overdue, too.
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