Significant setback for self-driving vehicles

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  • argonsagas
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    Significant setback for self-driving vehicles

    Tesla lost in court due to their car running into a parked car at 60MPH, killing the couple inside the parked car.

    liability in millions

    From AXIOS

    https://www.axios.com/2025/08/06/tes...x-newtab-en-us


  • snoobler
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    #2
    I don't understand how this is possible. Full self-driving has been fully functional since 2016, and Tesla's are the only heavily mass produced car to actually APPRECIATE in value as a result.. I think this is a conspiracy to smear Musk's reputation by the communist left.

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    • Sandy
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      #3
      Originally posted by snoobler
      I don't understand how this is possible. Full self-driving has been fully functional since 2016, and Tesla's are the only heavily mass produced car to actually APPRECIATE in value as a result.. I think this is a conspiracy to smear Musk's reputation by the communist left.
      Telsas are not considered fully self driving cars and never have been. There in lays the problem of people thinking they are. Sorry, it’s a fact, not a left wing conspiracy.
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      • Vmass
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        #4
        Originally posted by Sandy

        Telsas are not considered fully self driving cars and never have been. There in lays the problem of people thinking they are. Sorry, it’s a fact, not a left wing conspiracy.
        I believe his comments are in jest.

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        • GS1150Pilot
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          #5
          I hate the cause of the judgment, but hope people can find sanity again and start paying attention. Drive yourself or take an Uber, lazy slobs.
          "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
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          • rphillips
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            #6
            Been wondering since the self driving thing has been in the news, who will take the responsibility??? The car sure won't, no matter which vehicle is at fault.. Guess this is my answer. .
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            • snoobler
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              #7
              Originally posted by Sandy

              Telsas are not considered fully self driving cars and never have been. There in lays the problem of people thinking they are. Sorry, it’s a fact, not a left wing conspiracy.
              I've noted that you do not have a functional sarcasm meter.

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              • argonsagas
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                #8
                Originally posted by snoobler

                I've noted that you do not have a functional sarcasm meter.
                Have you thought that... maybe...he has the right meter, but he wants to needle you?

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                • snoobler
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by argonsagas

                  Have you thought that... maybe...he has the right meter, but he wants to needle you?
                  Nope. Agreeing completely with someone is not a way to needle them.
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                  • Cipher
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by argonsagas
                    Tesla lost in court due to their car running into a parked car at 60MPH, killing the couple inside the parked car.

                    liability in millions

                    From AXIOS

                    https://www.axios.com/2025/08/06/tes...x-newtab-en-us

                    The cel phone 16 yr old girls still have them beat.
                    next the full tint windowed skate board jockeys.
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                    • Cipher
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by rphillips
                      Been wondering since the self driving thing has been in the news, who will take the responsibility??? The car sure won't, no matter which vehicle is at fault.. Guess this is my answer. .
                      Does anyone here have access to insurance policies. Ill assume no liability lies with the car maker beyond what may be discovered as flaws in design.
                      if an assisted or full auto system is in place the small print will let you know you assumed responsibility by engaging it.

                      I find it almost impossible to be a passenger and have been driven by no more than half a dozen people where I did not silently scream.
                      a self-driving car is doubtlessly statistically safer. The fatalities grab headlines and are spun to benefit the agendas of any entity threatened by the change in technology.

                      the fear mongers once said that early train's speed would kill.
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                      • Cipher
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sandy

                        Telsas are not considered fully self driving cars and never have been. There in lays the problem of people thinking they are. Sorry, it’s a fact, not a left wing conspiracy.
                        Lies not lays
                        therein
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                        • Sandy
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cipher

                          Lies not lays
                          therein
                          Yeah, whatever. Is your reply actual sentences? LOL
                          Last edited by Sandy; 08-10-2025, 03:42 PM.
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                          • argonsagas
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                            #14


                            Lays make potato chips, which are not cheap, while golfers take chip shots, which may or not be cheap shots.
                            Golfers also look for the best lie for their balls, while looking ahead at the lay of the land.
                            And.....some golfers lie about the lie, but when a golfer and his balls do not get laid, he may lay down a lie about it.


                            It's all so confusing.



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                            • rphillips
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                              #15
                              argon, did you forget when the golfer was a kid, his mother washed his mouth out with lye soap for cussin'.
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