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    #61
    I don't know whether the PO did the work but its a mess . . . and I will have to double check everything and scrub everything too. I got my order of McMaster Carr S/S M4 Hex Screws yesterday so I reassembled the carbs. 10X per Carb





    You have to line up: fuel lines @ bottom, vacuum hose and those throttle shaft covers while inserting the throttle shaft






    Apply medium to the set screws and this is where I ran into problems
    1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
    Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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      #62
      Looks good but when I ops check the choke slide it slides out but slides right back in like a greased pig (or other analogies). Hum they were working before. The I get it, that that must be that micro sized ball bearing I found during disassembly. I check the Sudco RS exploded view and discover I am also missing the spring which pushes the ball bearing against the choke shaft.

      Well the Sudco site has the springs but I don't know if its the same size. Then I remember while vacuum cleaning the carpet below the work bench I heard something get ingested. Its worth a look inside. . . some one is looking out for me because I find the wayward spring (next to the Penny)


      The spring and ball bearing go right in there by the penny. The spring resides in a hole & the ball bearing (shown) sits on top engaging a notch in the choke shaft. Put it back together and now it works. Lucky

      Next Bench Synch & install Z-1 17mm drain O-rings. They are done, next set will be easier.

      Last edited by srsupertrap; 01-22-2014, 12:00 AM.
      1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
      Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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        #63
        Looks like i will have to start doing some housework again.
        Lost the clip from a master cylinder the other day.
        I have enjoyed following this resto.
        2@ \'78 GS1000

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          #64
          Steve, Glad you are enjoying the thread & its always worth a look. Finished the S/B carbs Friday: Bench synched them & installed the Z-1 float bowl O-rings


          Some have wondered why I have not just pulled the head & jugs to have a looksee inside. Well if its a Moriwaki 593 big bore kit lurking inside I have been told those rings are no longer available . . . then the only rebuild option would be Wiseco 615 kit, bore, gaskets etc and that means substantial $$$.

          Finally refitted the cams today after chasing M6 threads & repairing half of them with helicoils (Lousy Design: Penny wise . . . ). Cleaned everything, filled the oil galleries & applied assembly lube.



          Set to TDC, Ex "mark" pointing to the correct pin . .


          The intake Z/5 is lined up correctly. I respositioned both cam sprocket bolts in the middle. The smucklehead builder decided to loctitie those bolts with the Red-high strength

          Installed the manual cam chain tensioner, screwed in the bolt to lightly contact the cam chain and turned the engine over by hand. This photo shows the timing index mark is pointing to "F" (With cams in the position shown above). It should be line up with the "T" just like a GS model. I will pull the Dyna ignition and look behind. Next I have to make a TDC tool out of one of the fouled spark plugs & then degree cams

          Note: How far the ignition was advanced & the condition of the Philips head screws. That why I call him a smucklehead.

          1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
          Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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            #65
            Your bike is a paradox of fine hardware and someone who put it together with zero care

            Nice to see you're getting it all fixed
            1978 GS 1000 (since new)
            1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
            1978 GS 1000 (parts)
            1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
            1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
            1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
            2007 DRz 400S
            1999 ATK 490ES
            1994 DR 350SES

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              #66
              The carbs alone would've sent me away crying. Man, that's a lot of parts to get back together the right way. You're really doing a nice job on this bike. I'm sure it will be happy to be correct.
              1979 GS1000S,

              1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                #67
                This may get some discussion going. Didn't mention this earlier but while checking the valve lash I found a 2.05 valve shim residing in the #2 Exhaust. While reassemblying Sunday I found a 2.00 valve shim (smallest shim size available) in the #4 Exhaust. In fact all the intake & exhaust shims were on the thin side which I am guessing was attributable to a ream happy valve job.

                Brings up a good question . . . when a valve recedes into head under normal use one reaches the point were the head has to be rebuilt or replaced. BTW, I don't know how you add material. What's the consensus in this situation were the machinist most likely removed way too much valve seat material on a head with 24K?

                Note: GPz shims run from 2.80 down to 2.00mm minimum.
                1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
                Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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                  #68
                  You can skim .5mm from the top of the valve stems, but you'd have to pull the head
                  1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                  1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                  1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                  1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                  1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                  1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                  2007 DRz 400S
                  1999 ATK 490ES
                  1994 DR 350SES

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                    #69
                    Maybe the guy advanced the timing to help tune for the high elevation? It does help sometimes.

                    Are heads for that engine dime a dozen like GS heads or are they special for the GPz and thus expensive?


                    Life is too short to ride an L.

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                      #70
                      Jumping around a bit but bear with me. Over on the GPz550 Forum Garyinnj made the following comment which may explain why the crank timing marks TDC 1-4 don't line up perfectly with the cams which are installed correctly. . .

                      Originally posted by garyinnj "I've found the most common reason for marks not aligning perfectly is (normal) chain stretch/wear. Given your engine's hi performance mods I also wonder if the head was aggressively resurfaced which would also effect alignment."

                      So I took a picture and posted it here. Looking at Head Gasket looks like like there is less material on the Head side. Not measurable but what does yours look like?
                      1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
                      Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                        Maybe the guy advanced the timing to help tune for the high elevation? It does help sometimes.

                        Are heads for that engine dime a dozen like GS heads or are they special for the GPz and thus expensive?
                        Who knows what the guy was doing . . . No the GPz heads are different than KZ models and more rare.

                        Originally posted by BigT View Post
                        You can skim .5mm from the top of the valve stems, but you'd have to pull the head
                        Big T, Thanks for the good advice . . . I never thought of that either. I wonder how much a Shop charges for that operation?

                        Originally posted by nvr2old
                        The carbs alone would've sent me away crying. Man, that's a lot of parts to get back together the right way. You're really doing a nice job on this bike. I'm sure it will be happy to be correct.
                        nvr2old, Thanks for the encouragement . . . I thought this was going to be an easy refresh were I could focus on the cosmetics.
                        Last edited by srsupertrap; 01-28-2014, 03:14 PM.
                        1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
                        Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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                          #72
                          On Wednesday night I rechecked the valve lash. I adjusted five valves (4 Intakes & 1 Exhaust) and to my surprise I found no change on two of the intakes and another intake was still too tight (on two of those tight intakes I had reduced the shim size by two sizes i.e. 2.25 to 2.15) Confounding the issue I adjusted one loose exhaust valve by bumping the shim up by .05mm and that tightened up that exhaust valve lash into spec.

                          While you think about how that could happen. . . . I called Tom Klemme, Trippivot's friend the following day on Thursday. Tom did my 1100G head & porting and boring the 1100G cylinder for the 73.5mm Wiseco pistons. I told him it was mess, required lots of inspection, weld repair, skim valve stems etc etc

                          Friday night snowing in Colorado Springs again so I pulled the head



                          Looks rich no surprise there


                          Didn't remove the pistons yet, they are held in by spiral circlips which I believe is aftermarket only



                          Need help understanding how to get the front cam chain guide removed from the cam chain tunnel . . . . it has square peg (shown) on the top & bottom.


                          Cylinder walls look serviceable


                          Going to try to ship the head & cams on Saturday . . .
                          1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
                          Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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                            #73
                            Here is a couple of photos of the bottom of the head, see some interesting markings (between the studs) similar to the ones on the cams. I wonder if it's a Moriwaki head, I don't see Kawasaki embossed anywhere . . . running a bit rich



                            Then I see this marking . . . first time working on Kawi so I have no idea
                            . Might be similar to Ed's KZ750


                            Pic is blurry but check how close the intake valve is to the cylinder head surface



                            Pistons measure 60.75mm at the skirt



                            Off to Klemme Performance Motorsports, I cannot resurrect the patient by myself

                            1979 GS1000E (44 Yrs), 1981 GPz550
                            Departed: 1970 Yamaha R5A, 1971 R5B, 1975 Honda XL250, 1983 Suzuki PE175, 1983 CB1100F, 1983 BMW R100RS, 1992 ST1100

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                              #74
                              So what are you having them do to the engine?
                              1982 GS550M Rebuilt Winter '12 - 550 to 673cc engine conversion.
                              1989 Kawasaki ZX-7 Ninja
                              2016 Ducati Scrambler Full Throttle

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                                #75
                                Pistons show some blowby. You figured out if rings are available yet?

                                Ed

                                To measure is to know.

                                Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                                KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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