1981 Kawasaki KZ750 Resurrection

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  • nvr2old
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    • Jan 2009
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    • Sandpoint, Idaho

    #271
    I agree. If the striping tape is flat when you spray the first coats of clear, it should stay that way. Lay the first coats on kinda dry so it doesn't eat into the tape. 3-4 coats, let it dry for a few days, sand it smooth, lay a few more wet coats and you should be good.
    1979 GS1000S,

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    • Nessism
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      #272
      Got everything color sanded. Had to level out a some clear runs and think it's all flat now (fingers crossed). Painting front and back at the same time proved to be my undoing, especially on the front fender. The flow clear layers should be much easier since it's just the top surface now.


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      Last edited by Nessism; 07-30-2017, 07:51 PM.
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      • tkent02
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        • Jan 2006
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        #273
        Originally posted by Nessism

        Laid down some pin stripe tape on an old CD as a trial. Worrisome issue is making sure the stripes don't lift after stretching them to form the corners. Performed a similar trial on a different substrate but the tape curled up after a few days. Hopefully the smooth surface of the CD will replicate the surface of the painted and sanded tank, and the strips will stay put. The clear should help the stripes stick down, but not sure I should rely on that. I'm thinking if the tape doesn't lift after a couple days they should be okay after being clear coated. Guess I could do a trial and paint the CD then toss it in the sun. Was hoping to avoid all that extra work though...

        On this bike one of the stripes lifted at the corner as the clear went on.



        The curve might have been tighter than yours, but the stripe was thinner too. It was on there tight until the clear went on. The curve was perhaps tighter than yours, but the stripe was thinner too. I wonder if heating it and rolling it down might help? Mine was not really noticeable from more than a foot away, but it was there. Still is.
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        • Nessism
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          #274
          How long did you wait before the clear went on Tom? And was the surface smooth, or were you going over an overlap seam step between the two colors?

          Larry advocates laying on the clear pretty dry to avoid lifting. Sound advice. When laying down the stripes on my old 550 tank I made sure to burnish them down firmly before the clear. Waited a few days before shooting the clear too. No lifting, but then there were no tight turns either.

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          • Guest

            #275
            Looks very good!

            Originally posted by Nessism
            Painting front and back at the same time proved to be my undoing, especially on the front fender.
            That was my undoing on the first job, too. You learn these things the hard way...

            Originally posted by Nessism
            can't decide if I should do that and shoot a couple more clear layers before the stripes, or just lay the stripes down now.
            I am in favor of laying most of the clear AFTER laying the stripes, gives more depth to it and the graphics don't stand that proud of the surface. I guess it's just a preference on the looks. But laying a semi-dry coat or two to seal the graphics is I think a very sound advice. That's how I've done it and had no probs.

            Good luck (but I'm sure it will look stunning!)

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            • Nessism
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              #276
              Originally posted by psyguy
              I am in favor of laying most of the clear AFTER laying the stripes, gives more depth to it and the graphics don't stand that proud of the surface. I guess it's just a preference on the looks. But laying a semi-dry coat or two to seal the graphics is I think a very sound advice. That's how I've done it and had no probs.

              Good luck (but I'm sure it will look stunning!)

              Oh yes, clear over the stripes for sure. Sorry if it wasn't clear that I was going to use more clear, but how much more clear? ...oh nevermind.
              Ed

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              • posplayr
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                • Dec 2007
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                • Tucson Az

                #277
                Originally posted by Nessism
                How long did you wait before the clear went on Tom? And was the surface smooth, or were you going over an overlap seam step between the two colors?

                Larry advocates laying on the clear pretty dry to avoid lifting. Sound advice. When laying down the stripes on my old 550 tank I made sure to burnish them down firmly before the clear. Waited a few days before shooting the clear too. No lifting, but then there were no tight turns either.



                Very pretty Ed

                It doesn't need it, but are you going to sand and buff it as well?
                Last edited by posplayr; 07-13-2014, 08:01 PM.

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                • Guest

                  #278
                  Originally posted by Nessism
                  Oh yes, clear over the stripes for sure. Sorry if it wasn't clear that I was going to use more clear, but how much more clear? ...oh nevermind.
                  Yes, I got your question correctly so it was *me* who wasn't clear - I meant to say:

                  - after the first coat of clear (which you've done), apply graphics, then several more coats.

                  as compared to:

                  - several coats of clear to start with, then graphics, then just one more coat.

                  But anyhow this is just preference in appearance, depending how deep you want the graphics to appear - deeper in or more on the surface. On my GS I have 4 coats of clear on top of the graphics and one coat below/before the graphics. It doesn't show in pics but in person the graphics appear burried deeply below the surface, which I like.
                  Last edited by Guest; 07-13-2014, 09:38 PM.

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                  • posplayr
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by tkent02
                    On this bike one of the stripes lifted at the corner as the clear went on.



                    The curve might have been tighter than yours, but the stripe was thinner too. It was on there tight until the clear went on. The curve was perhaps tighter than yours, but the stripe was thinner too. I wonder if heating it and rolling it down might help? Mine was not really noticeable from more than a foot away, but it was there. Still is.
                    Maybe some super glue, tape everything else off

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                    • Nessism
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                      #280
                      Laid down the pinstripes today. Turned out okay, but I won't be quitting my day job to start pinstriping for a living.

                      Bought 3M brand stripes, and ordered direct from 3M because I wanted to make sure to get fresh stock. The stripes themselves are sort of gummy in consistency, and stretch easily for the turns.

                      Finished the last part this morning and going to let them set up for the rest of the day, then shoot some more clear layers down tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed...

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                      Last edited by Nessism; 07-30-2017, 07:56 PM.
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                      • eil
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                        • Dec 2012
                        • 3062
                        • SE Michigan

                        #281
                        Ooh, I like that a lot. Is the color underneath black?

                        I think those stripes would look fantastic under dark grey. (Which would not be "vintage," but eh.)
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                        • Nessism
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                          #282
                          Originally posted by eil
                          Ooh, I like that a lot. Is the color underneath black?

                          I think those stripes would look fantastic under dark grey. (Which would not be "vintage," but eh.)
                          The color is a real dark blue; it looks black in the shade but the blue comes out in the sun. Had the paint mixed special.
                          Ed

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                          • Nessism
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                            #283
                            Shooting clear...

                            Wait 10-20 min's between coats. Spray...wait...spray...go to GSR and check in...spray...GSR...

                            Getting the hang of this new USC01 clear. Medium coats. Not too thin or it's orange peel city. So far no runs. Spraying outside means some dust here and there. Not too bad though.

                            Will post some new photos soon.
                            Ed

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                            • Nessism
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                              #284
                              Pre polishing...

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                              Last edited by Nessism; 07-30-2017, 07:59 PM.
                              Ed

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                              • SVSooke

                                #285
                                Nice Ed!2K in a spray can right,tried it for the first time on my 78 1000,confirmed to me I'm great with a can and a disaster with a spray gun

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