Anyone work on XL500s?

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  • tkent02
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    • Jan 2006
    • 35571
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    #1

    Anyone work on XL500s?

    How to you set the cam timing? I picked up a free 1982 500, need to see what's wrong with the engine.
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  • tom203
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    • Aug 2010
    • 8925
    • Norway,Maine

    #2
    Originally posted by tkent02
    How to you set the cam timing? I picked up a free 1982 500, need to see what's wrong with the engine.
    Well, I still got my 1973 XL-350: single cyl. Is yours a twin?
    1981 gs650L

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    • tkent02
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      #3
      No, it's a thumper. I think the valves hit the pistons a little bit, leak down shows leaky exhaust valves. Might need some new exhaust valves or maybe all four of them. Interestingly the piston looks like the intake valves hit harder than the exhausts, but it's the exhaust side that's leaking. Taking them out now. Got to love POs. The bolts that hold the sprocket on the cam were just finger tight. I'm thinking he realized his mistake in cam timing, fixed it, saw poor compression and gave up.


      Odd, the valves are straight and they look fine, the stem seals are newer, but have chunks out of the sealing edge.
      Last edited by tkent02; 02-23-2016, 04:30 PM.
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      • tom203
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        #4
        Probably skipped. My model had non auto camchain adjuster-and a rinky dinky method of pushing on chain.
        1981 gs650L

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        • GregT
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          • Jul 2009
          • 3541
          • New Zealand

          #5
          Originally posted by tkent02
          No, it's a thumper. I think the valves hit the pistons a little bit, leak down shows leaky exhaust valves. Might need some new exhaust valves or maybe all four of them. Interestingly the piston looks like the intake valves hit harder than the exhausts, but it's the exhaust side that's leaking. Taking them out now. Got to love POs. The bolts that hold the sprocket on the cam were just finger tight. I'm thinking he realized his mistake in cam timing, fixed it, saw poor compression and gave up.


          Odd, the valves are straight and they look fine, the stem seals are newer, but have chunks out of the sealing edge.
          From memory, cam is "straight up" at TDC - both valves closed, two bolt flange vertical. Sounds like he's replaced the bent valves and not been kind to the stem seals doing it....

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          • tkent02
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            #6
            Yeah, I think that's it. Read about it not having any oil filter too, so any metal being made anywhere goes through the cam bearings over and over and over... I like Suzuki's DR design better, don't really need another big single, think I might just part this one out.
            Thanks for the help.
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            • exdirtbiker
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              • Aug 2011
              • 1579
              • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

              #7
              I know I'm late to this party, but you really want to join the "Thumpertalk" forum.
              The folks over there are almost as nice as the ones around here.

              This is the spot to talk about the Honda XR650L dual sport, King-of-the-desert XR650R, & old skool thumper XR600R. Find new & used XR650L & R motorcycles & parts for sale, XR650L & R reviews, and browse owner garages & mods. Honda XR650L & XR650R Motorcycle Reviews Honda XR650L & XR650R Motorcycles & Parts for Sale Honda XR650L & XR650R Owner Garages and Mods
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              • tkent02
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                #8
                I was a member there a long time ago, kind of dropped it when it all turned to advertising.

                I think I'm just going to part this pig out anyway.
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                • exdirtbiker
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                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1579
                  • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

                  #9
                  If you have a really good cam shaft in that bike, you may have just won the lottery.

                  They were really scarce 5 years ago, and cam gets fried easily when the motor has "low oil pressure" - for any reason-.

                  I sold a good XR600R head for $320 a few years ago. check ebay "completed listings".
                  1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
                  1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
                  1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
                  Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

                  I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


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                  • tkent02
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                    #10
                    Yeah, the cam and the head look perfect, rebuilt with two new valves. Lottery? I'll check.
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