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  • exdirtbiker
    Forum Sage
    • Aug 2011
    • 1579
    • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

    #1

    Stupid question alert !

    How bad would it be if someone put a 1/2" rear master cylinder on a bike that came with a 5/8" from the factory? ( keeping original caliper)

    A: More pedal stroke required?
    B: Little noticeable difference?
    C: Soft pedal feel?
    D: I'm a complete idiot for considering it?


    WHY would I do this? It'l save me about $100.
    1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
    1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
    1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
    Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

    I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


  • Nessism
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    • Mar 2006
    • 35790
    • Torrance, CA

    #2
    Suzuki used a 14mm bore master on the rear of the 1000G. Moving to a 1/2" bore master will add a little pedal lever stroke and maybe a little softer feel, but the braking force will be higher for any given level of foot pressure on the lever. Most likely you won't notice much difference.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      I'm not exactly sure of the correct answer, but I think the inside diameter of the hose will also make a difference. Pushing hydraulic fluid is like pushing a rod as it doesn't compress. So if you went to a smaller bore there may be more of a stroke needed to push the same amount of fluid if you were pushing two calipers, which maybe a total of two to twelve separate pistons, but since it it for the rear it is usually only one or two pistons. If you effort seems greater, I would think if you went to a ss braided line with a smaller ID, it would compensate for the loss. I could be talking out of my azz also.

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      • Nessism
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        • Mar 2006
        • 35790
        • Torrance, CA

        #4
        The hole size in the line is a non factor. It doesn't change during brake usage and is already full of fluid.
        Ed

        To measure is to know.

        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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        • exdirtbiker
          Forum Sage
          • Aug 2011
          • 1579
          • 2 miles from exit 89: Brick NJ

          #5
          Thanks.. it's for the KZ, not the GS.
          More homework yielded the parts I need for $35, so I'm happy rebuilding the OEM master.
          1980 GS1000G - The Beast - GOING... GOING... yup, it's gone. I'm bikeless !!! GAaaahh !!!
          1978 KZ1000C1 Police - GONE !
          1983 GPZ750, aka ZX750A1 - restored, fresh paint... Gave it back, it was a loaner !!!
          Check My Albums for some of the 30+ headaches I've dealt with

          I know -JUST- enough to make me REALLY dangerous !


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          • rphillips
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            • Jun 2005
            • 7615
            • Norene TN

            #6
            Good luck. Last yr. I bought a rebuild kit, from All Balls Racing, for an "83* GS1100E, & only appx. 1/2 the parts fit. I reused some of my old parts & some of their parts, to make it work. Real PITA. All seems OK now even tho old dust boot is glued together.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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