do you like safety switches?

[wymple]

"The more we make our machines idiot-proof, the more we become idiots"

Truer words were never spoken. There should be a line in the sand somewhere.

[Cipher]

"The more we make our machines idiot-proof, the more we become idiots"

Truer words were never spoken. There should be a line in the sand somewhere.

Trite load of bollocks sad you believe it.

[rphillips]

I don'no Rob , "nine times out of ten it will get kicked up by the asphalt", I'd guess more like 50/50 & probably a little less. My "79" GS1000S was totaled & my "79" KZ1300 Turbo was sent thru the ditch & into a hay field, no damages, because I didn't put the stand up. Like you said "My own damn fault", but I can guarantee these two accidents wouldn't have happened if those bikes had safety switches like my GSX1100G, my 2 Bandit 1200's, or my ZRX1100. Warning lights are totally different from the cut-out switches that won't let you do exactly what you said you did, back in post 14. Like I said earlier, just an aggravation, till the rare time that it saves you, then they are great.

[wymple]

Trite load of bollocks sad you believe it.

Just as sad you can't see it.

[Lou]

I can remember suavely standing next to my bike, gearing up suavely. Suavely turning the key. Suavely hitting the button and watching the bike suavely launch itself without me aboard. Good times!

Who was the hero of this movie

[Rob S.]

Who was the hero of this movie

Steve McQueen. Cooler than Batman.

[Guest]

The more we make our machines idiot-proof, the more we become idiots.

Sadly seems to be true. The more safety systems you put on a machine the less people use their own brain and then are surprised when the safety system fails at some point. There has been lots of research on this effect over the years and it is well documented. Risk compensation describes some of it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation

I don'no Rob , "nine times out of ten it will get kicked up by the asphalt", I'd guess more like 50/50 & probably a little less.

My experience matches that of Rob S. Over the years I have left the sidestand down maybe 5-6 times, on at least 2 bikes that I can think of. Every time there was a bang and the sidestand self retracted as the back wheel took a hop and then I carried on as per usual. I can believe it causes wrecks, but that has not been my experience, which I'm quite happy to keep that way.


Mark