GS400 bored to GS448

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  • Guest

    #31
    Looks like we have the same problem

    Do 10 steps, take 1 picture

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    • droyce

      #32
      Just dont forget any dowel pins like I did, had to tear the whole thing down again. Homer moment there.

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      • Guest

        #33
        Oh really

        I didn't forget mine but I did manage to drop one into the case

        Luckily I did manage to fish it out with a magnet.

        Now they are glued to the case

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        • droyce

          #34
          Got my frame back from powdercoat, thanks to Bulldog powdercoat in orlando.
          Before


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          Last edited by Guest; 01-15-2013, 07:21 AM.

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          • droyce

            #35
            Coming Along, I ran into some carb issues. Apparently the previous owner swapped in the wrong float bowl.

            Last edited by Guest; 01-15-2013, 07:27 AM.

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            • Nessism
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              #36
              So it's running, but needs minor sorting? Looks good!
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              • Guest

                #37
                Originally posted by Nessism
                So it's running, but needs minor sorting? Looks good!
                +1... at least you know what's up with the carbs now!

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                • droyce

                  #38
                  Well I found a set of carbs for a decent price. Stripped them down today for some cleaning. After some swapping between the two sets and a slight gasket modification, I got her started. I had no time to tune and troubleshoot, but at least its running.



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                  • Toasty

                    #39
                    Damn, the bike is looking good!

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                    • Guest

                      #40
                      Good stuff! Posted in your other thread first but yeah, they definitely look like my 450 carbs.

                      Great news that she's at least running

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                      • droyce

                        #41
                        Pete, it appears the carbs are identical with the exception of the float bowl trench, gasket, and jets. The new set I got has 110 main and 20 pilot. The set im using is a 117.5 main and 22.5 pilot (from memoery). What does the gs450 run? Im thinking that may be a better option with being bored over to 448cc.

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                        • Guest

                          #42
                          117.5 and 22.5 are the stock jets for the 80 - 82 450 carbs

                          They should have a 4C3-3 needle too if memory serves me right.

                          In fact here's my link to the dirt on the 80 - 82 450 carbs...

                          I've been promising for ages to put up the correct factory carb spec's for the 450's from my factory repro. manual. I have it here in front of me, and while I thought it covered all the '80's 450's, it only has the detailed spec's for the 1980 - 1982 models. So here they are. Measurements are mm (in) Type: Mikuni

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                          • droyce

                            #43
                            I'll have to check the needles when I get home.

                            But according to the parts fiche on boulevardsuzuki dot com, the 1978 GS400 did indeed come with the 110main and 20pilot.

                            My '77 should have come with a 112.5main.

                            However, the needle and needle jet part#'s match between the '77 and '78, so I should be good to go there.

                            I'm wondering why they would switch jets though, I would think the tuning would be identical between the two years. The engine and carbs are the same. My only guess would be the design difference in the float bowl, in which case, I'll need to switch to the later jets of the '78 to match my bowls.

                            Now if I want to match the jets more to the gs450. The parts fiche shows the 1980 GS450's with 115main and 17.5pilot. But according to your research I'd just need a 17.5pilot.

                            Last edited by Guest; 02-18-2013, 02:39 PM.

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                            • Guest

                              #44
                              One reason for the difference could be that the 77 and 78 are A,B or C models. Each had different cam's with different performance level's.

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                              • droyce

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Mekanix
                                One reason for the difference could be that the 77 and 78 are A,B or C models. Each had different cam's with different performance level's.
                                I thought only the german models came with a different camshaft profile, and the model designations were for the options (electric start, etc.)

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