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    Burning through stators

    81 gs1100e
    Why do I keep burning up stators?

    oil doesn’t run dry or remarkably low, I keep it topped up when chasing the oil blow by issues… have a mosfet r/r. Good connections between…

    maybe this is just par for the course, but it looks like the insulation is breaking down and it’s gonna die eventually. Had a lithium batt in there for a few years, went back to AGM at the top of this season.

    Should they look new after a few years running on an optimized setup?
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    #2
    What PN is your R/R? You need a SH775, to help protect your stator.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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      #3
      Are these new srators or salvage? The insulation probably ages even without heat. Even sitting on a shelf.


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        #4
        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
        What PN is your R/R? You need a SH775, to help protect your stator.
        It’s a 775 I believe. My memory isn’t that great but my research skills are, and I read a lot on this forum about them and the specific one to seek out. I do remember that i got this one from eBay from a salvaged bike that spec’d it as an OEM part.. something tells me it was a Yamaha R6 or something of the like.

        and this was a new stator, from caltric, I’m sure. They make some pretty good value stuff for the gs1100. Rear brake pads, also.
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        03 ktm 525 exc supermoto
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          #5
          My Caltrics look better after years of use with a SH775 or Compufire.
          Not new, but just a hint of oil baked on.
          Changing oil every year.

          Yours looks like it got quite hot, so maybe your SH775 was a fake after all ?
          Think that's why Ed asked for specifics on it.
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            #6
            Originally posted by CincinnatiKid View Post

            It’s a 775 I believe. My memory isn’t that great but my research skills are, and I read a lot on this forum about them and the specific one to seek out. I do remember that i got this one from eBay from a salvaged bike that spec’d it as an OEM part.. something tells me it was a Yamaha R6 or something of the like.

            and this was a new stator, from caltric, I’m sure. They make some pretty good value stuff for the gs1100. Rear brake pads, also.
            The R6 didn't use a SH775. How about checking the writing on the top fin?
            Ed

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              #7
              God god damnit damnit

              checked the scribe marks on the R/R and it’s a “FAxxxxx” so that’s definitely the issue.

              So I got one on eBay today for $36 that is definitely Sh775

              i saw that my last stator was purchased in oct 2021. And the gs is just one of 5 bikes so it doesn’t even get used full time!

              in theory, the sh775 ought to keep the amperage between stator and r/r low, and the wire disconnect points should keep from being overheated, right? Mine were stiff and the plastic jackets on the bullet connections were brittle.

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                #8
                Wow super small pic… it’s a 775

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                  #9
                  Good job, buying a SH775.

                  This is my recommended way to hook it up. Key element: wire the stator direct to the R/R, bypassing the factory harness.

                  SH775 Install by nessism, on Flickr
                  Ed

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                    #10
                    Totally, thanks. That’s how I have the current one wired in.

                    wonder how long it will be until a new stator is needed now. Hopefully it can run the rest of the season with this new help.
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                    03 ktm 525 exc supermoto
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                      #11
                      Nessism​ That post and picture should be a easily accessible "STICKY" somewhere. So many people are getting duped by these fake, junky R/R's. It's too bad EBAY doesn't do a dang thing about this.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by CincinnatiKid View Post
                        Totally, thanks. That’s how I have the current one wired in.

                        wonder how long it will be until a new stator is needed now. Hopefully it can run the rest of the season with this new help.
                        When I installed a 775, I deliberately left the slightly-cooked stator in place just to see how long it would last.
                        That was about 2015 - it's still working fine. Absolutely without a doubt it would have expired long since with the old regulator.
                        ---- Dave
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Grimly View Post

                          When I installed a 775, I deliberately left the slightly-cooked stator in place just to see how long it would last.
                          That was about 2015 - it's still working fine. Absolutely without a doubt it would have expired long since with the old regulator.

                          big up

                          thanks for saving me $80!!
                          81 gs1100E
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CincinnatiKid View Post


                            big up

                            thanks for saving me $80!!
                            Yes, but; I keep a spare stator on a shelf just in case, and I rarely go out beyond battery re-home capacity, should the old stator stop working.
                            I think I've proved my point to myself, it's beyond time to hoik out the old stator.
                            ---- Dave
                            79 GS850N - Might be a trike soon.
                            80 GS850T Single HIF38 S.U. SH775, Tow bar, Pantera II. Gnarly workhorse & daily driver.
                            79 XS650SE - Pragmatic Ratter - goes better than a manky old twin should.
                            92 XJ900F - Fairly Stock, for now.

                            Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                              #15
                              CK, in your first post you mention that you have a MOSFET R/R and later show a picture of a 775.

                              With the proof that you have a 775, you need to adjust your thinking a bit, it is NOT a MOSFET R/R.

                              MOSFET is simply the type of transistor that is used in the R/R. It is more efficient than the typical silicon transistor, so it is a bragging point, but it would still be in a shunt-type R/R, which the 775 is not.
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