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  • tkent02
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    • Jan 2006
    • 35571
    • Near South Park

    #226
    Originally posted by mlinder
    I thought he just used a 650 top end?
    Which is 675cc?
    Yes, with very oversized pistons. 699.
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    Life is too short to ride an L.

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    • mlinder

      #227
      Ah, had not read that.
      About 63.25mm?

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      • tkent02
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        #228
        Dunno .
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        • Suzuki_Don

          #229
          Originally posted by tkent02
          Dunno .
          673 + 1mm o/s = 699cc

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          • mlinder

            #230
            Weird, I get 696 ccs from my math.

            But that's cool, near 700cc's in a 550

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            • Suzuki_Don

              #231
              Originally posted by mlinder
              Weird, I get 696 ccs from my math.

              But that's cool, near 700cc's in a 550
              Correct again. It does work out at 696. Sorry for that. I will need to rethink my gearing now. I might need a couple of extra teeth on the back sprocket to compensate for the drop in HP. haha

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              • mlinder

                #232
                Originally posted by Suzuki_Don
                Correct again. It does work out at 696. Sorry for that. I will need to rethink my gearing now. I might need a couple of extra teeth on the back sprocket to compensate for the drop in HP. haha
                hehe. Yes, those 3cc's are at least 7/20ths of a horsepower!

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                • Guest

                  #233
                  Originally posted by Suzuki_Don
                  Thanks Pete, the new 550 badges belie to 700cc motor sitting in there.
                  Love this - reckon you'll give a few other riders a surprise with this one Don!

                  You must be almost 30kgs lighter than a 750 and only 50cc smaller (or 52cc...)

                  Looks sweet too.

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                  • Suzuki_Don

                    #234
                    Thanks Coady, yes it's eventually coming together. A couple of years work, sometimes focussed, sometimes not. I am glad it's nearly finished and hope to get some miles on it now.

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                    • Guest

                      #235
                      Great work Don, she's a real beauty. Thanks for writing this all up, very educational. Ray

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                      • Suzuki_Don

                        #236
                        Originally posted by Ghostgs1
                        Great work Don, she's a real beauty. Thanks for writing this all up, very educational. Ray
                        Thanks Ray, it's been a fair journey for me as well. It might not be all over yet though, until I get it out on the road and get a few miles on it I will not know if their is more tuning, carb synching , etc. to be done. Here's hoping it runs without any further problems.

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                        • Can_O_Tuna

                          #237
                          Originally posted by Suzuki_Don
                          Bill, glad my thread is of use to others. Sometimes I think I am posting too many pics and sometimes I think this thread is developing from a query about a noise in my motor to a thread on an engine rebuild project. But as long as I receive encouragement from people like you I will keep going.

                          Thanks Bill for your suggestion.

                          I've been keeping close tabs on this thread as well Don. I have a similar noise and have not had the time or $$ (mostly time) to really get into it. Thanks for such a detailed record. As far as too many pics etc, keep em coming, its the detailed posts like these that are priceless when it comes to figuring out this type of problem

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                          • Suzuki_Don

                            #238
                            Not Happy

                            I took the bike out for it's first run this afternoon. Plenty of power, the motor is very willing, lots of low down punch, but alas when it warms up you can hear the knock. It is quiet enough when first started when the motor is cold. But as it warms up the knock becomes apparent. You cannot hear it while riding, so i don't know if it is happening at higher revs or maybe I just can't hear it. Apart from the noise I am extremely happy with the motor.

                            The only thing I did not do when the motor was apart both times was to check the backlash in the gears of the transmission, could it make a noise like this.

                            What about the backlash between the crank gear and the clutch gear, remembering that I have straight cut gears on my motor.

                            My next task is to synch the carbs to at least see how far out they are.

                            Here is the video:


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                            Comments please.
                            Last edited by Guest; 11-05-2010, 03:40 AM.

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                            • almarconi

                              #239
                              I wonder if your carbs are out of sync enough to make the noise. Try syncing the carbs and see if the noise goes away.

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                              • Suzuki_Don

                                #240
                                Originally posted by almarconi
                                I wonder if your carbs are out of sync enough to make the noise. Try syncing the carbs and see if the noise goes away.
                                Yes that is my next move. I have the carbtune setup, but have never used it before. I have to set it up first, I think I have to cut some tubes and insert in the lengths of rubber pipes. I need to get the instructions out and read them to see what to do.

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