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  • Guest

    #1

    Ring Positions

    OK I have read around the forum and what everyone says is to keep the rings ~120 degrees apart and the top and middle one around 10:00 and 2:00 O'clock.

    The oil ring is made up of 3 pieces, the spacer and two side rails. Where do you suggest I place the gap on the spacer and two side rails? All the manual says is to not over lap them?
    Last edited by Guest; 06-25-2011, 09:48 PM.
  • Guest

    #2
    Anybody????

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    • niclpnut
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      • Sep 2010
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      • Peculiar, MO

      #3


      Upper side rail at about 2 o'clock , spacer at 6 and lower side rail at about 10.

      top ring at 6 and second ring also around 10.

      12 o'clock is the exhaust side of the piston for reference.


      Nic
      Last edited by niclpnut; 06-25-2011, 10:41 PM.
      83 GS1100ES rebuild:

      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

      Budget GSXR Conversion:

      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

      New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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      • Guest

        #4
        Thank You

        BTW where did you get that diagram?

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        • niclpnut
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          #5
          Is in the service manual.

          download one (right click- save as) from basscliff's site here:



          I like to drool over engine rebuild pics, so if you have some put them up

          Nic
          83 GS1100ES rebuild:

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

          Budget GSXR Conversion:

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

          New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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          • Guest

            #6
            I have the service manual ... There is no diagram like that at least in section 7-36 Piston and rings. The manual I'm looking at is 80-83_GS1100T-LT-EX-1000SZ-EZ-SD-ED-ESD.pdf, are you looking at a different manual or a different section?

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            • niclpnut
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              #7
              Same manual.

              Section 7-33 Engine

              Under Cylinder Installation.


              Nic
              83 GS1100ES rebuild:

              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

              Budget GSXR Conversion:

              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

              New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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              • Guest

                #8
                Thank You...

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                • niclpnut
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                  #9
                  yup...

                  I looked at that damn manual so many times, I almost memorized certain sections .

                  Sometimes having it in print is also easier than on the 'puter like mine is.

                  Nic
                  83 GS1100ES rebuild:

                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=170032

                  Budget GSXR Conversion:

                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=200563

                  New to me bike: 2008 B-KING

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                  • 49er
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                    • Jul 2006
                    • 1517
                    • Napier, New Zealand

                    #10
                    Don't get hung up on the ring positions. They don't stay there when the engine is running.
                    :) The road to hell is paved with good intentions......................................

                    GS 850GN JE 894 10.5-1 pistons, Barnett Clutch, C-W 4-1, B-B MPD Ignition, Progressive suspension, Sport Demons. Sold
                    GS 850GT JE 1023 11-1 pistons. Sold
                    GS1150ES3 stock, V&H 4-1. Sold
                    GS1100GD, future resto project. Sold

                    http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P1000001.jpg
                    http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P1000581.jpg

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                    • 7981GS

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 49er
                      Don't get hung up on the ring positions. They don't stay there when the engine is running.
                      At least the oil control rings do.

                      Daniel

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                      • 49er
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 7981GS
                        At least the oil control rings do.

                        Daniel
                        Yeah, they don't move much.

                        Two stroke pistons have a pin in the ring groove to stop them from rotating, preventing the ends from snagging on the port windows. Broken rings and scoured bores occur when that happens on race ported engines. .
                        :) The road to hell is paved with good intentions......................................

                        GS 850GN JE 894 10.5-1 pistons, Barnett Clutch, C-W 4-1, B-B MPD Ignition, Progressive suspension, Sport Demons. Sold
                        GS 850GT JE 1023 11-1 pistons. Sold
                        GS1150ES3 stock, V&H 4-1. Sold
                        GS1100GD, future resto project. Sold

                        http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P1000001.jpg
                        http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/P1000581.jpg

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