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  • Paul's Zuki

    #46
    I measured roughly the piston size and it is 55mm. what size ball hone would be good? I found one on ebay that is 55-57mm would that be sufficient?

    Or could I use those 3 stone hone tools?(they have this available at the auto store near where I live)
    Last edited by Guest; 07-26-2011, 09:48 AM.

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    • Nessism
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      #47
      Ball hone is what you want. http://enginehones.com/
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      • Paul's Zuki

        #48
        what size should I get and what grit? current bore is about 55mm


        They have a 57mm 240 grit. If I order this these usually come oversized correct? So I just order the exact corresponding size, Correct?
        Last edited by Guest; 07-26-2011, 10:21 AM.

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        • Paul's Zuki

          #49
          nevermind just found all the info i needed on that website. thanks.

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          • sparki

            #50
            i, personally, would get an engineering shop to do this for you...... easy to mess it up and then you'll need oversize pistons if you do...

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            • Paul's Zuki

              #51
              Originally posted by sparki
              i, personally, would get an engineering shop to do this for you...... easy to mess it up and then you'll need oversize pistons if you do...
              I actually know how to hone. I was once an industrial honer working on Sunnen & General Hone machines. I just wasn't sure how these ball hones were measured, giving some more play. well, with that said, I did hone out the bores and this is what I found. On cylinder 1 it looks like it has some scoring and cylinder 4 just some spots. I can't feel those, only in cylinder can i feel it. See photos below. What do you think? usable or am i needing a new head?

              Cylinder #1




              &

              Cylinder #4


              Also found that the ring gap was oversize by about 5-10mm.

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              • gearhead13

                #52
                5-10 mm oversize ring gap? Are you sure you have the proper rings for that?
                Thats where your compression is going.

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                • Nessism
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                  #53
                  Those cylinders look bad to me. Ebay?
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                  • Paul's Zuki

                    #54
                    that's what I was afraid of. ebay it is. damn. I just dropped about another $100.00 on gaskets and stuff and now this. damnit. damnit. damnit. Deep breath. Oh how I love you GS.

                    How will I even know if the one off ebay is any good. so far have found 3 and 1 says its scored, so I'll stay away from that one.

                    Other option how easy not easy is it to press out bore and put in a fresh one? and I know this isn't anything I can do at home, but for those that have gone thru this, what?

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                    • mike_of_bbg

                      #55
                      Do some searches on removing cylinders; it's been covered. If you're not married or you have a very understanding wife I think they fall out after a while at 400 degrees in an oven. Or you could just use the whole new cylinder block.

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                      • niclpnut
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                        #56
                        ouch...yeah double check your ring size.

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                        • Paul's Zuki

                          #57
                          Okay just ordered a cylinder head that the seller said the bores were in very good condition and pictures proved it as well. We will see once it gets here and I have ordered some new piston rings and know exactly what the tolerances should be. Hopefully this will resolve my compression woes.

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                          • Nessism
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                            #58
                            This is almost too cheap to be true... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-Su...item4cf82b943b
                            Ed

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                            • Guest

                              #59
                              5-10 mm??
                              Are you serious?

                              Was it already bored over?

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                              • Paul's Zuki

                                #60
                                Originally posted by chef1366
                                5-10 mm??
                                Are you serious?

                                Was it already bored over?
                                bear with me, I'm new at this. The rings had a gap that measured about 4mm, I mean. pretty good size gap though

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