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    Knocking sound from my 650gx

    I know there are a few topics about knocking noises, and I have looked through them lightly but nothing stood out too great.
    My gs seems to have adopted a knocking type noise, similar to the sound that a 4 cylinder Toyota has with rod knock. It doesnt sound at idle(the tapping noise I asked about a few months ago is still there) but under load around 3-5k rpms it knocks pretty loud. It doesnt do it if I am in neutral or with the clutch pulled and rev it up like the Toyota does though.

    In my search I saw that some GS's have a roller-bearing set up that makes rod knock theoretically impossible.
    I talked to my friend, [diesel]master tech, the other day and had him look at it and he said it sounds like a loud electrical popping and suggested the ignitor was arcing. I was under the impression that it doesnt work like that.
    I recently had my headers off to replace those gaskets and saw that cyl1 was running very lean and 2+3 were rich and 4 was somewhere in between.
    EDIT::Almost forgot, I changed the 15 year old stale oil out about 700 miles ago with a brand new EMGO filter. I used the Rotella Synthetic T6--5W-40::

    once again, the bike is a 1981 GS650GX. Which of these would be most likely, or is there an even more likely culprit? I dont really wasnt to start taking things apart right now chasing a ghost.
    Last edited by Guest; 08-30-2011, 10:31 PM. Reason: add info

    #2
    650G doesn't use a roller crank. And it's not the ignitor. My guess is clutch noise or a rod knock.
    Ed

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      #3
      I hope its clutch noise. I was planning on doing some clutch work soon anyway, but the idea that the motor could be shot made me shy away a little.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Nessism View Post
        650G doesn't use a roller crank. And it's not the ignitor. My guess is clutch noise or a rod knock.
        Yes, it has plain bearing crank and needs lots of oil to keep things happy. If it "adopted" this knocking when you changed to the 5w-40 (?) oil, I'd change oil back to 15-40 and hope that that cures it.
        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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          #5
          I just had a 650g that I had to change the motor in because of a rod knock caused by a tip over and the bike ran on it's side for a spell and apparently got no oil to the bearings. Hopefully that is not the case with your bike
          1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
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            #6
            Originally posted by hjfisk View Post
            I just had a 650g that I had to change the motor in because of a rod knock caused by a tip over and the bike ran on it's side for a spell and apparently got no oil to the bearings. Hopefully that is not the case with your bike
            Mine fell over, but I am 95% sure it stalled before hitting the ground... It hapened so fast I cant be 100%

            I will try thicker oil when I do the clutch work. I think I actually have a few quarts of Lucas oil from before I heard about rotella

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              #7
              Oil is not the answer. T6 Rotella is great stuff.

              Do your clutch work and then go from there.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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              Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                #8
                ok, I was originally going to do the springs & rough up the friction disks a bit. what else should I look for While in there?

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