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  • Brendan W
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    • Jul 2013
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    #1

    850G black sugar in the fins

    Could anyone tell me what these little black sugar lump sized things are doing lodged between the fins on both sides of the cam chain. They are jammed in fairly tight and are tapered as if to match the fins. They have me stumped
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  • tkent02
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    #2
    Little blocks of rubber to dampen vibrations, left over from Suzuki's two stroke heritage.

    The ring ding ding part of the two stroke's sound is partly the cooling fins vibrating. I have never been able to tell a difference in sound on a GS with them in or out.

    I think it never occured to them to not include them in the new four stroke models.
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    • Nessism
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      #3
      Recently bought a set of those on ebay in South Africa. Can't buy the black ones anymore from Suzuki in the US. Crazy, yes, but I don't care. Bike is a restoration project. Don't think they do squat from a functional standpoint, but don't care about that either.
      Ed

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        #4
        Originally posted by Nessism
        Recently bought a set of those on ebay in South Africa. Can't buy the black ones anymore from Suzuki in the US. Crazy, yes, but I don't care. Bike is a restoration project. Don't think they do squat from a functional standpoint, but don't care about that either.
        That the bike functions or not?

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        • Nessism
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          #5
          Just for you Bill...

          Ed

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          • Brendan W
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            #6
            Originally posted by tkent02
            Little blocks of rubber to dampen vibrations, left over from Suzuki's two stroke heritage.

            The ring ding ding part of the two stroke's sound is partly the cooling fins vibrating. I have never been able to tell a difference in sound on a GS with them in or out.

            I think it never occured to them to not include them in the new four stroke models.
            Be careful what you ask. I'm going to able to hear it now and smell the 2T oil as well .
            When you consider the pressure Suzuki were under at the time it's not too surprising that they would include every trick they knew to make the new bikes their one chance best shot. Maybe that's exactly why they have withstood the test of time.
            Or
            Maybe the owners brother in law had the cushion supply contract
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            • tkent02
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              #7
              Originally posted by Brendan W
              Maybe the owners brother in law had the cushion supply contract
              Cha ching!
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              • Nessism
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                #8
                Got my sugar chunks. Now to figure out where they go. 1980 GS1000. Anyone have photos showing the factory location for these rubber snubbers?
                Ed

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                • Brendan W
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                  #9
                  I can probably fix the problem for the first three - that's all I've got left. Will try a pic in daylight.
                  There are eighteen slots between the big fins on the top of the head and your pic has only seventeen lumps
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                  • Flyboy

                    #10
                    Ed, funny you should ask, today was spent cleaning Jennifer's head, and I was looking at those rubber blocks, will be posting progress pics up in my rebuild thread in the next few days, will be sure to take some pics of the rubber block locations for you, as most of mine are still there, and I am sure you coul work out the pattern for the missing ones from the ones that are still in the head, if you don't come right by then.

                    You should have let me know you were ordering parts from here, I just sent Dale a package, I could have thrown them in there for you, and he could have forwarded them on to you for local postage only, save you some coin on shipping, and the way I know thay grumpy old curmudgeon, not even that.
                    Speak up grasshopper.

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                    • chuck hahn
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                      #11
                      18 slots...so how many are called for on a parts fiche????
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      • chuck hahn
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                        #12
                        PAD, RUBBER
                        11152-38A00 (replaces 11152-45000) 18 $2.14 $1.94

                        Guess its one per slot according to Boulevard Suzuki fiche.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        • Brendan W
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                          #13
                          There are four lines of six fins making twenty gaps.The inner fins by the chain tunnel seem to have had a block fitted in each of the five gaps at the mid point of their overlap near the top of the fins. That's ten blocks.
                          The outer fins have no sign of anything ever fitted between fins 1 and 2 ( counting from front) and the one between 4 and 5 is not where you would expect ( see pic) assuming it has rested immobile for 32 years. It looks like only four of the outboard slots were filled. That's another eight making 18 in total ?
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