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  • Dogma
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    • Sep 2007
    • 7143
    • Mason, OH (SW)

    #46
    Originally posted by Nessism
    Use your breaker bar, or a 1/2" ratchet to crack the head nuts loose before you try to make them up with the torque wrench. I broke my beautiful dial type torque wrench torquing the head on an 850. The nuts were really sticky and shocked the wrench breaking it. It's at the shop right now and going to cost $70 to fix the stupid thing. Maybe should have thrown it in the trash, but didn't have the heart.
    What he have here is an excellent opportunity to turn this into a torque wrench thread:

    Ya know, a nice simple beam type wouldn't have that problem.

    (I have clicky wrenches.)
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    • Rob S.
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      • Dec 2013
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      #47
      Are beam types still made?
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      • Steve
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        • Jun 2005
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        • southwest oHIo

        #48
        Originally posted by Rob S.
        Are beam types still made?
        Step on down to your local Sears store, pick up a 3/8" wrench for $19 or a 1/2" wrench for $23.

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        • tkent02
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          • Jan 2006
          • 35571
          • Near South Park

          #49
          Originally posted by Rob S.
          Are beam types still made?
          Yes, because they still have a lot of advantages over the clickers.
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          • Guest

            #50
            oil and torque wrenches in one thread??? madness.

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            • earlfor
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              #51
              Originally posted by tkent02
              Yes, because they still have a lot of advantages over the clickers.
              I had "clickers" about ten years ago, and then one day I tried out a beam.
              The clickers went into the trash and I never looked back.
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              • Dogma
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                • Sep 2007
                • 7143
                • Mason, OH (SW)

                #52
                Originally posted by Steve
                Step on down to your local Sears store, pick up a 3/8" wrench for $19 or a 1/2" wrench for $23.

                .
                Sears... Those are in malls, right? Maybe I don't need one.
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                • Allie
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                  • May 2010
                  • 7682
                  • New Jersey

                  #53
                  Okay now which type of torque wrench is better for use on sprockets on the chain drive bikes which are clearly superior to shafties?
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                  • tkent02
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 35571
                    • Near South Park

                    #54
                    Clickers, need periodic calibration, can lose calibration if dropped, or if the adjustment spring is left too tight for too long in storage. Expensive to buy a good one. Affected by temperature. Sometimes on the small torque settings, you can't hear or feel the click. Should not be used at either extreme of it's range. More expensive. Should not be used as a breaker bar, as it can break. More fun to use, because it does something.

                    Beam, never needs calibration other than bending the needle straight. Temps don't matter much if at all. Cheap to buy a good one. Can use it as a breaker bar, no problem. Lasts forever. Not as much fun to use. Sometimes, it's hard to see the dial as you use it.

                    Use whichever one you have.
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                    • Allie
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                      • May 2010
                      • 7682
                      • New Jersey

                      #55
                      Originally posted by tkent02
                      Clickers, need periodic calibration, can lose calibration if dropped, or if the adjustment spring is left too tight for too long in storage. Expensive to buy a good one. Affected by temperature. Sometimes on the small torque settings, you can't hear or feel the click. Should not be used at either extreme of it's range. More expensive. Should not be used as a breaker bar, as it can break. More fun to use, because it does something.

                      Beam, never needs calibration other than bending the needle straight. Temps don't matter much if at all. Cheap to buy a good one. Can use it as a breaker bar, no problem. Lasts forever. Not as much fun to use. Sometimes, it's hard to see the dial as you use it.

                      Use whichever one you have.
                      A rational, objective, informative post. It has no place here!!
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                      • tkent02
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 35571
                        • Near South Park

                        #56
                        Then use a synthetic wrench.
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                        • Allie
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                          • May 2010
                          • 7682
                          • New Jersey

                          #57
                          Originally posted by tkent02
                          Then use a synthetic wrench.
                          Naturally.
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                          • Guest

                            #58
                            I use my beam wrenches more now then ever. Also been using syn oil in my bike for years, no leak problems, no oil burning nothing.

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                            • Grimly
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                              #59
                              Funnily enough, this very topic was exercising me earlier and that's why I nipped in here to see what experiences anyone had with fully-synth on the roller-bearing crankshafts.
                              It occurred to me that it's possible for an oil to be too good, and one thing that must be avoided is ball-skid. Once your balls start to skid, you're snookered, matey.
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                              • Griffyn

                                #60
                                Originally posted by bonanzadave
                                Seeing how this has gone completely OT....

                                any of you 4 wheel BMW types had to buy this ?

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