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Why not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.Originally posted by jimb12 View PostsigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
2015 CAN AM RTS
Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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Burns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.Originally posted by mrbill5491 View PostWhy not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.
Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Your Dyno results, clearly show that there are little adverse affects of age, presumably because you have kept up with basic maintenance.Originally posted by Rob S. View PostBurns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.
Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.
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AJ
Ride a modern 1000 sportbike for a week and that should kill any thought that your 11000E is wheelie prone.Originally posted by Rob S. View PostBurns no oil, starts instantly with choke, nary a cough nor sputter from idle to redline. Plus she's lighter with no centerstand, V&H exhaust and missing seat strap.
Getting a little frightening in first and second near redline as I'm no wheelie expert.
(Not to say that the 1100 doesn't want to lift it's front wheel or that is isn't very fun motorcycle to ride.)
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Yeah, I know (I've read every issue of Cycle World cover to cover for over 20 years).Originally posted by AJ View PostRide a modern 1000 sportbike for a week and that should kill any thought that your 11000E is wheelie prone.
I just don't like radiators or fairings on bikes. Or luggage racks. Or saddle bags. Or crash bars. Or...
You get the idea. I want to see my engine (and it better have cooling fins!)1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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Well put. The simpler bikes are, somehow, on many levels more satisfying and ... fun.Originally posted by Rob S. View PostYeah, I know (I've read every issue of Cycle World cover to cover for over 20 years).
I just don't like radiators or fairings on bikes. Or luggage racks. Or saddle bags. Or crash bars. Or...
You get the idea. I want to see my engine (and it better have cooling fins!)"Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
~Herman Melville
2016 1200 Superlow
1982 CB900f
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jimb12
You are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.Originally posted by mrbill5491 View PostWhy not, if its not burning oil, kept in tune etc etc and runs like a stripped a$$ ape...I would bet'cha it would be about the same hp. In some cases even a bit more since the rings are seated in good.
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That's Mr. Schmoe to you.Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View PostComparing dragstrip trap speeds has its own set of variables, though. I have the feeling that Jay Gleason got higher trap speeds than Joe Schmoe.1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red
2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
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There was also apparently large differences noted at the drags by otherwise identical bikes later attributed to manufacturing tolerances in head work. While I might tend to agree that aging might reduce up, 30 year after on this case the old gs seems to be improved with age which is less likely the case.Originally posted by jimb12 View PostYou are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.
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jimb12
True, but we were comparing to actual people that we knew, not to the magazine articles of the day. It was far enough away from theirs that it was obvious the engine was not as sharp as new.Originally posted by GS1150Pilot View PostComparing dragstrip trap speeds has its own set of variables, though. I have the feeling that Jay Gleason got higher trap speeds than Joe Schmoe.
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I don't know, I bet my Suzukis runs better now than it did when brand new...Originally posted by jimb12 View PostYou are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.My Motorcycles:
22 Kawasaki Z900 RS (Candy Tone Blue)
22 BMW K1600GT (Probably been to a town near you)
82 1100e Drag Bike (needs race engine)
81 1100e Street Bike (with race engine)
79 1000e (all original)
82 850g (all original)
80 KZ 650F (needs restored)
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I'm not assuming anything. Not burning oil indicates good sealing rings and valve seals not leaking.. Then again this is all academic and really doesn't mean much. We just enjoy our rides.Originally posted by jimb12 View PostYou are assuming that because it is not burning oil, it's just like brand new. Fact is, he did not get a dyno pull done this year in stock form before the pipe and jet so we don't know for sure how much hp it had. I can tell you though, when a friend of mine bought a 14 year old (at the time) GS1100E that ran just fine, no oil burning or smoking, and was pure stock, it definitely did not have as much hp as they did when brand new. How do we know? Trap speeds at the drags, we knew people who had these things brand new in the early 1980s and therefore knew what a fresh one was capable of back in the day.sigpicMrBill Been a GSR member on and off since April 2002
1980 GS 750E Bought new in Feb of 1980
2015 CAN AM RTS
Stuff I've done to my bike:dancing: 1100E front end with new Sonic springs, 1100E swing arm conversion with new Progressive shocks installed, 530 sprockets/chain conversion, new SS brake lines, new brake pads. New SS fasteners through out. Rebuilt carbs, new EBC clutch springs and horn installed. New paint. Motor runs strong.
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