Possible clutch slip( 2nd opinion pls)

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  • Guest

    #1

    Possible clutch slip( 2nd opinion pls)

    Hi all went out on my GS1000G at the weekend and experienced the following:-
    When accelerating hard in 4 & 5 for a split second the revs increased but did not pull then it was pulling again.
    The symptom does not happen in the other gear range
    I have searched on here and it would seem that it may be the springs? Or possibly oil?
    The oil I put in was 10w 40 but it was a general motor oil not specifically for bikes, could this be the reason?
    I guess I should take springs out and measure but have not done this before so was wondering could it be the oil?
    Any advice appreciated.
  • Agemax
    Forum Guru
    • Apr 2008
    • 8371
    • plymouth uk

    #2
    is the clutch cable adjusted correctly, with a couple of mm freeplay at the lever?
    1978 GS1085.

    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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    • Guest

      #3
      Originally posted by Agemax
      is the clutch cable adjusted correctly, with a couple of mm freeplay at the lever?
      Yes I have 2-3mm free play at lever

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      • Agemax
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        • Apr 2008
        • 8371
        • plymouth uk

        #4
        pull the clutch apart and check the springs and all the plates are within spec. go from there
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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        • JTGS850GL
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          • Aug 2013
          • 9735
          • GA

          #5
          Do as Agemax has said and verify everything. If it's all original, there's a pretty good bet that the springs are weak and need to be replaced. Don't go crazy with aftermarket heavy duty springs. OEM springs are good for another 30 years and are pretty inexpensive.
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          1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
          1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
          1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

          Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

          JTGS850GL aka Julius

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          • AJ

            #6
            Many of us have cured this by replacing with heavier clutch springs. In most cases, you only need to replace half the springs (every other spring).

            The clutch plates themselves can be very expensive, so this is a good time to inspect them, although stiffer springs are usually sufficient to tame the slipping clutch on a torquey bike like your GS1000G.

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            • tkent02
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              • Jan 2006
              • 35571
              • Near South Park

              #7
              Stock springs won't slip if the rest of the clutch is in working condition.
              http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

              Life is too short to ride an L.

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              • Agemax
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                • Apr 2008
                • 8371
                • plymouth uk

                #8
                dont use H/D springs unless you have bionic hands!
                1978 GS1085.

                Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                • wymple
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                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1893
                  • SE Iowa

                  #9
                  I just put in 3 new springs on my slightly slipping clutch on my 850G. They are EBC and were slightly longer than the old stock springs. I can't make it slip now, and it was worse than you describe.

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Agemax
                    dont use H/D springs unless you have bionic hands!
                    .. or a hydraulic clutch.

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                    • AJ

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Agemax
                      dont use H/D springs unless you have bionic hands!
                      Hence the suggestion to start with only 3 of the springs.

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                      • tkent02
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 35571
                        • Near South Park

                        #12
                        Still harder on cables, levers, perches and everything else, and completely unnecessary.

                        The stock springs don't slip.
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                        Life is too short to ride an L.

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                        • Big T
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 12392
                          • West Slope, OR

                          #13
                          with all this debate about springs, the oil can be a contributing factor

                          Modern car oil is not good for your clutch, I don't know if the UK has the same labeling as the US, but over here we avoid oil labeled "energy saving"

                          Diesel oil, like Shell Rotella T, is a good alternative to motorcycle oils
                          1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                          1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                          1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                          1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                          1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                          1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                          2007 DRz 400S
                          1999 ATK 490ES
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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Hi all thanks for all the advice.
                            Went in the garage today and readjusted the cable to a little over 3mm.
                            Well went out on bike today and could not get the slip so hopefully it was only that, if it happens again I will strip down and inspect all components.
                            Once again thanks to all.

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                            • wymple
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 1893
                              • SE Iowa

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tkent02
                              Still harder on cables, levers, perches and everything else, and completely unnecessary.

                              The stock springs don't slip.
                              My old stock springs darn sure let it slip. Why should I worry about OEM if I cured it for 10 bucks? I can barely tell if it's any stiffer at the lever.

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