Valve adjust: priority what?

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  • Rob S.
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    • Dec 2013
    • 9393
    • New York City

    #1

    Valve adjust: priority what?

    I keep reading so much here about checking and adjusting valves.

    If a bike starts instantly, (in any weather), idles beautifully and pulls hard all the way to redline with no stumbles, how far off could the valves be?
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.
  • tkent02
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    • Jan 2006
    • 35571
    • Near South Park

    #2
    They could be far enough off to burn a valve or two tomorrow.
    CAn you hear any tapping at idle?
    How hard is it to take a look?
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

    Life is too short to ride an L.

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    • 1980GS1000E
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      • Aug 2007
      • 1664
      • San Diego, California, USA

      #3
      If you start to feel any performance issue due to valves, it is too late.
      Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B

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      • Rob S.
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        • Dec 2013
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        #4
        Originally posted by 1980GS1000E
        If you start to feel any performance issue due to valves, it is too late.
        Really?!? Yikes!
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        • tkent02
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          • Jan 2006
          • 35571
          • Near South Park

          #5
          Again, can you hear any tapping at idle?
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

          Life is too short to ride an L.

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          • Rob S.
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            • Dec 2013
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            #6
            Originally posted by tkent02
            CAn you hear any tapping at idle?
            How hard is it to take a look?
            No, and pretty much impossible (for me).

            Time to contribute more to my mechanic's kid's college fund.
            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            • posplayr
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              • Dec 2007
              • 23673
              • Tucson Az

              #7
              Originally posted by Rob S.
              No, and pretty much impossible (for me).

              Time to contribute more to my mechanic's kid's college fund.
              Just what I was thinking. Have him tell you all the clearances through.

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              • tkent02
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                • Jan 2006
                • 35571
                • Near South Park

                #8
                Tappy Valves are Happy Valves. If you can't hear them they are probably too tight.


                It's a really easy DIY thing, especially on the 16 valve bikes.
                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                Life is too short to ride an L.

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                • JEEPRUSTY

                  #9
                  Rob S are you deaf?
                  I can still hear valve clatter

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                  • GS1150Pilot
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                    • Nov 2013
                    • 18917
                    • MoN, AZ

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tkent02
                    Tappy Valves are Happy Valves. If you can't hear them they are probably too tight.
                    This. 100% true.
                    "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
                    ~Herman Melville

                    2016 1200 Superlow
                    1982 CB900f

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                    • BigD_83
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                      • May 2011
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                      • Vancouver

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rob S.
                      No, and pretty much impossible (for me).

                      Time to contribute more to my mechanic's kid's college fund.
                      How come impossible? No tools, money, or space?
                      '83 GS650G
                      '83 GS550es (didn't like the colours in the 80's, but they've grown on me)

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                      • Triam

                        #12
                        I love my bike and I think anyone who buys one is making a good decision. Nonetheless, if you're not going to work on it yourself it'll be much cheaper to spend more and buy a newer bike rather than pay a mechanic's repair bill.

                        I'm sure you have enough brain power to check your valves.

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                        • Dj66

                          #13
                          Listen to these guys, you could almost train a monkey to do this job.

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                          • 850 Combat
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 6018
                            • Spokane, WA, and Hampden, ME

                            #14
                            The two valve adjustment isn't hard. The worst part is needing new shims and waiting for them. I bought a kit of them, but it was expensive. There is a shim club here that makes them inexpensive. I just like to have the parts I need to reassemble before dismantling.
                            sigpic Too old, too many bikes, too many cars, too many things

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                            • blowerbike
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                              #15
                              train a monkey to not over tighten the jam nuts and have then come loose in your engine...seen it to many times.
                              these nuts need to be super tightened or bad thing will happen.
                              yes you make your own adjustment unlike shim types but there's a lot more room for error on the rocker type adjustment's.
                              no torque wrench used....just really tight without the adjuster turning while tightening the jam nut and loosing your clearance.

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