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    No play at the clutch lever

    My 1980 GS1100 had to be adjusted to have no play in the clutch lever or the bike would creep forward when in gear. So I went ahead & replaced all the clutch fibers (the steels were good) & replaced the clutch cable. It's still exactly the same. Any suggestions?
  • blowerbike
    Forum Guru
    GSResource Superstar
    • Aug 2008
    • 7057
    • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

    #2
    OEM fibers?
    OEM springs?
    OEM cable?
    nice smooth bends when routing?
    on hot rods a person has to sacrifice things.
    a 100% stock clutch won't hold added HP if it is very much.
    a stock clutch with a lock up unit will hold a few hundred HP and feel factory(or lighter) and you can find neutral when stopped in gear.
    on my hot rod street bikes i ran 3 gold barnett springs and 3 factory.
    it was harder to pull in but the clutch lasted a long time and didn't slip.
    i could power shift and find neutral no problem when stopped or just putt around on the street.

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    • Nessism
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      • Mar 2006
      • 35790
      • Torrance, CA

      #3
      Steel plates may be warped.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Don't forget there are 3 adjustments on a OEM clutch cable. Clutch arm, Clutch lever and in the middle of the cable more or less.

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        • Steve
          GS Whisperer
          • Jun 2005
          • 35925
          • southwest oHIo

          #5
          When you changed the clutch disks, did you inspect the clutch basket?

          Open it up again and look along the grooves where the 'fingers' of the disks run. If there are a bunch of dimples there from the disk 'fingers' the disks will tend to center themselved into those dimples and will not slide sideways to release their grip on the steels.

          Here is what you are looking for (and hoping not to find):


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          • Guest

            #6
            If I take all the adjustment out of the lever, the clutch will feel fine. It doesn't engage right off the lever anymore & I can find neutral. OEM fibers & cable, 3 gold springs, 3 stock. There's no slippage even after flogging it all day at the strip.

            Steve, IIRC there is some grooves in the basket.

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            • Steve
              GS Whisperer
              • Jun 2005
              • 35925
              • southwest oHIo

              #7
              Originally posted by nastyjones
              Steve, IIRC there is some grooves in the basket.
              Well, as I mentioned earlier, for the clutch to release, those disks need to separate from each other. Those dimples prevent that.

              There are two ways that I know of to rectify the situation:
              1. Take a BUNCH of time and a small file or grinding stone to smoothe out the dimples.
              2. Get a new basket.

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              sigpic
              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
              Family Portrait
              Siblings and Spouses
              Mom's first ride
              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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              • blowerbike
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                GSResource Superstar
                • Aug 2008
                • 7057
                • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                #8
                put a pipe on the lever and carefully bend it to get more travel at the grip...
                you can then add a little free play back.
                a little makes a big difference.
                the problem with no free play is that your throw out bearing isn't very happy from being loaded all the time.

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