Clutch rattle, doesn't engage in any gear????

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  • Bob Shaw
    Forum Mentor
    • Oct 2014
    • 112
    • Christiana, TN

    #1

    Clutch rattle, doesn't engage in any gear????

    Hi, I'm new to the forum. I have a 1982 gs850g. I started out of my driveway, heard rattling noise and the bike didn't move anymore. The clutch doesn't engage in any of the 5 gears. I took the side cover off and everything looked good. When I drained the oil it was clean, same with the middle oil. I have never replaced a clutch before but it looks simple enough along with Clymers, I don't anticipate any problems there. Can any one advise me as to what happened????
    Thanks, Bob Shaw
  • tom203
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    Past Site Supporter
    • Aug 2010
    • 8925
    • Norway,Maine

    #2
    When you say "the clutch doesn't engage in any of 5 gears", does gear shift lever move thru gear pattern? Is bike stuck in some gear now, or will it roll freely ,as it appears to be in neutral?
    clutches seldom quickly fail, but the secondary drive system can.
    1981 gs650L

    "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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    • Bob Shaw
      Forum Mentor
      • Oct 2014
      • 112
      • Christiana, TN

      #3
      Thanks for looking. The bike shifts fine but acts like it's in neutral. It's not stuck in gear, it rolls freely.

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      • tom203
        Forum Guru
        Past Site Supporter
        • Aug 2010
        • 8925
        • Norway,Maine

        #4
        Originally posted by Bob Shaw
        Thanks for looking. The bike shifts fine but acts like it's in neutral. It's not stuck in gear, it rolls freely.
        Suspect the propeller shaft u-joint attachment

        1981 gs650L

        "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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        • Bob Shaw
          Forum Mentor
          • Oct 2014
          • 112
          • Christiana, TN

          #5
          I'll look into that part. is there some kind of test I can perform to determine if that's the problem??

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          • tom203
            Forum Guru
            Past Site Supporter
            • Aug 2010
            • 8925
            • Norway,Maine

            #6
            Originally posted by Bob Shaw
            I'll look into that part. is there some kind of test I can perform to determine if that's the problem??
            Put in any gear, if it still rolls sorta freely (clutch engaged) ,problem lies in secondary gear stuff. Peel back rubber boot and go exploring.
            1981 gs650L

            "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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            • Guest

              #7
              Check the spline in the rear wheel , they are known for stripping out very common problem
              http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...EEL/parts.html
              part # 14 in the rear wheel

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              • blowerbike
                Forum Guru
                GSResource Superstar
                • Aug 2008
                • 7057
                • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                #8
                Originally posted by hjfisk
                Check the spline in the rear wheel , they are known for stripping out very common problem
                http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...EEL/parts.html
                part # 14 in the rear wheel
                oh yes...that would be my guess....good call.

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                • Bob Shaw
                  Forum Mentor
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 112
                  • Christiana, TN

                  #9
                  Thanks to all of you. I started taking off the rear drive. I'll see what I find.

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                  • Bob Shaw
                    Forum Mentor
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 112
                    • Christiana, TN

                    #10
                    Clutch rattle, doesn't engage in any gear?

                    I looked for propeller shaft coupling, don't make them any longer. It was easier and probably cheaper to get another final drive. I installed it and have power to rear end in all gears. Another problem came up. When putting the clutch back together and adjusting it as per Clymner, when I'm in gear I don't have any free spin like when I'm in neutral There is definitely drag . When I hold in the clutch lever and rotate the engine the rear wheel moves??? Any help is appreciated.. When I pull on the clutch lever the clutch discs only move about 1/8 th of an inch. Is that about right??
                    Last edited by Bob Shaw; 11-07-2014, 06:13 PM.

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      There are 2 indents in the back of the clutch basket that the oil pump drive fits into. If these aren't aligned correctly the clutch won't disengage.

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                      • Bob Shaw
                        Forum Mentor
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 112
                        • Christiana, TN

                        #12
                        I know about the indents. Does it make any difference which indent goes into which slot? I'm pretty sure I have them in correctly. Clymer doesn't specify.. Thanks.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          I do think it does. As long as the basket is fully flush and seated.

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