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  • Jim R
    Forum Apprentice
    • May 2014
    • 56
    • Oreland, PA

    #1

    Mysterious Oil Leak

    suzuki oil.jpg

    1982 GS1100G - Started finding several drops of oil when I parked the bike after riding. Also could smell oil burning off of the exhaust pipe when idling at a red light. Found the source.. There is a machined hole in a nook on the side of the engine (see red arrow in pic) Oil only comes out when bike is in motion and for a short while after parking. I can rev the engine while sitting still forever and no oil drips. Any idea's?
  • chuck hahn
    Forum LongTimer
    Past Site Supporter
    • May 2009
    • 25951
    • Norman, Oklahoma

    #2
    That looks like the sump drain hole for the starter. Its there for water or whatever to drain from around the starter motor. Theres an Oring around the front of then starter that seals to the cases. That oring is most likely going south.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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    • Jim R
      Forum Apprentice
      • May 2014
      • 56
      • Oreland, PA

      #3
      I have the cover to the starter off and the cavity is bone dry. I guess I should check more closely.

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      • chuck hahn
        Forum LongTimer
        Past Site Supporter
        • May 2009
        • 25951
        • Norman, Oklahoma

        #4
        If its dry inside the sump, the next suspect would be the stator cover gasket leaking at the top corner and the oil running down there and thats just happens to be where it drips from.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        • Jim R
          Forum Apprentice
          • May 2014
          • 56
          • Oreland, PA

          #5
          I had recently had the stator cover off so I checked that first. The believe that the oil that is dripping is gear oil. Not motor oil.

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          • chuck hahn
            Forum LongTimer
            Past Site Supporter
            • May 2009
            • 25951
            • Norman, Oklahoma

            #6
            gear oil and engine oil smell distinctly different. Whats it smell like???
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            • Jim R
              Forum Apprentice
              • May 2014
              • 56
              • Oreland, PA

              #7
              I didn't smell it and the bike is now on the lift with various pieces removed but the oil was much cleaner than the motor oil so I assume it was gear oil. I also topped of the secondary oil before I rode it the last time and checked the level today and it was down a little.

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              • Brendan W
                Forum Sage
                Past Site Supporter
                • Jul 2013
                • 4931
                • Wexford, Ireland

                #8
                Gear oil smells of cat pee. Do you have a vent on the secondary with a plastic pipe running into the starter cavity. If the secondary got overfilled it could just be blowing it off. This would only happen with the bike moving.
                97 R1100R
                Previous
                80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                • Jim R
                  Forum Apprentice
                  • May 2014
                  • 56
                  • Oreland, PA

                  #9
                  Upon further investigation, I am now 99% sure it is Secondary Gear Oil. When I top off the gear oil, I get a few drops out of the hole even without the bike moving. It does smell a little like cat pee.

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                  • Jim R
                    Forum Apprentice
                    • May 2014
                    • 56
                    • Oreland, PA

                    #10
                    There is no hose or pipe running into the starter cavity.

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                    • Brendan W
                      Forum Sage
                      Past Site Supporter
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 4931
                      • Wexford, Ireland

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jim R
                      There is no hose or pipe running into the starter cavity.
                      I think there should be. Part nos. 22 & 52
                      http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs1100-g...2.html#results
                      97 R1100R
                      Previous
                      80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                      • Jim R
                        Forum Apprentice
                        • May 2014
                        • 56
                        • Oreland, PA

                        #12
                        You may be on to something. Here's a pic I just took. To the best of my knowledge, there was never any hose coming out of this and the "hole" isn't a hole. It's solid.DSC00004 (1).jpg

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                        • Jim R
                          Forum Apprentice
                          • May 2014
                          • 56
                          • Oreland, PA

                          #13
                          I can't tell from the schematic where that hose and breather are supposed to be.

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                          • Jim R
                            Forum Apprentice
                            • May 2014
                            • 56
                            • Oreland, PA

                            #14
                            Disregard my last post. I did find the breather and hose. They are connected properly. There is no oil in the starter cavity. It only comes out of the hole in the first pic I posted earlier today.

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                            • Brendan W
                              Forum Sage
                              Past Site Supporter
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 4931
                              • Wexford, Ireland

                              #15
                              Stupid question, but how are you topping off the gear oil ?
                              97 R1100R
                              Previous
                              80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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