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  • trent
    Forum Guru
    • Nov 2011
    • 8040

    #1

    Stripped threads in head

    The threads that the can cap bolts go into, if thats well enough of a description. Just bought a gs 550 and the head was already off. The guy I got it from pulled top end off because of a oil leak between cylinder and motor? Was looking at the head and three thread holes are stripped to almost nothing.
    I was gonna heli-coil them but have been told by a few people that there are four or five better fixes??


    Any suggestion on how you guys would fix it??

    Thanks
  • Nessism
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    • Mar 2006
    • 35790
    • Torrance, CA

    #2
    Helicoil. Use a drill press to assure they go in straight.
    Ed

    To measure is to know.

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    • Doug

      #3
      ".. but Have been told by a few people that there are four or five better fixes"

      And those fixes are?

      I've used Heli coils on my drag bike and on aircraft applications. Please tell us about those four or five "better" fixes.

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      • hillsy
        Forum Sage
        • May 2008
        • 1469
        • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

        #4
        Yep. Helicoil.

        Make sure the Helicoil sits well below the surface so there's no possibility of the cap being pushed up.
        Current:
        Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

        Past:
        VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
        And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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        • posplayr
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          • Dec 2007
          • 23673
          • Tucson Az

          #5
          In this case better means overkill. Helicoil a work great in aluminum .

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          • chuck hahn
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            • May 2009
            • 25918
            • Norman, Oklahoma

            #6
            I use Timeserts. Timeserts are a threaded steel sleeve that goes into the hole. I think they are much better than your basic coiled up conventional helicoil.

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            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            • Guest

              #7
              I like these better than Helicoils..

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              • trent
                Forum Guru
                • Nov 2011
                • 8040

                #8
                Originally posted by Doug
                "

                I've used Heli coils on my drag bike and on aircraft applications. Please tell us about those four or five "better" fixes.
                Only remember timeset..don't remember others?
                I watched a guy use heli coils on his GS1100 dragbike, he decided to go ahead and do all the cam cap threaded holes on his bikes head and thought I give it a go.
                I found another head but would rather fix this one?

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                • posplayr
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                  • Dec 2007
                  • 23673
                  • Tucson Az

                  #9
                  Originally posted by trent
                  Only remember timeset..don't remember others?
                  I watched a guy use heli coils on his GS1100 dragbike, he decided to go ahead and do all the cam cap threaded holes on his bikes head and thought I give it a go.
                  I found another head but would rather fix this one?
                  If you take one look at the size of a timesert, you will realize you will be hating life if you start replacing cam cap threads.

                  I have never had a helicoil go in crooked, just tap the threads by hand. It self-centers. I have had a head with a bunch of timecerts and every exhaust bolt was crooked(my mechanic did it when blue printing a Datsum 2000 engine for me back in the 1980's)

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                  • DohcBikes

                    #10
                    There are several companies that make threaded inserts. Timesert is a great one and Napa also makes a good kit. Helicoils are about the least quality insert you can buy. Couldnt pay me to use one.

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Originally posted by posplayr
                      If you take one look at the size of a timesert, you will realize you will be hating life if you start replacing cam cap threads.

                      I have never had a helicoil go in crooked, just tap the threads by hand. It self-centers. I have had a head with a bunch of timecerts and every exhaust bolt was crooked(my mechanic did it when blue printing a Datsum 2000 engine for me back in the 1980's)

                      Very good point.

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                      • DohcBikes

                        #12
                        If your timeserts are crooked its because you lack the skill it takes to install them.

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                        • Nessism
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                          #13
                          I work in the aerospace industry and helicoils are standard install on aluminum parts that get removed on a semi regular basis. We never use timeserts. I'd use helicoils for the application being discussed without hesitation. And I disagree with Jim that helicoils never go in crooked. Actually, it's not the helicoil that goes in wrong it's the tapping of the hole for the insert that can go in crooked. This is no joke and happens all the time. Using a guide like a drill press keeps this from happening. You just gotta make sure the tap starts in straight, you don't need to tap the whole way on a drill press.

                          Where I'd use a Timesert is on something like a spark plug hole.
                          Ed

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                          • DohcBikes

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nessism
                            I work in the aerospace industry and helicoils are standard install on aluminum parts that get removed on a semi regular basis. We never use timeserts.
                            Whats your point

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