Perm magnet to get to starter clutch........ UGH

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  • Mario
    • Feb 2026

    #1

    Perm magnet to get to starter clutch........ UGH

    Hey all. Need to service my starter clutch. I finally got the right tool/puller after a mix up. Put the puller on, and nothing. I am using so much force on the wrench that I am afraid I will break off the end of the crankshaft. Is there a trick? It probably has never been removed since new.
    83 1100e.

    Should I try it when engine is warm? Heat with a torch? Freeze with dry ice? What is the trick? Do I have a problem?
  • posplayr
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    #2
    lots of force and lots of heat; use MAPP gas. You will need to repair your tool after you break it as well.

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    • Mario

      #3
      SO , i need to heat up the magnet or the tool? Should I use an impact?

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      • posplayr
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        #4
        Originally posted by Mario
        SO , i need to heat up the magnet or the tool? Should I use an impact?
        Heat direct on the hub; stay away from the magnets.

        Whatever it takes to get it off.

        I used two breaker bars in like a dead lift. Feet under one both hands on the other.

        and you will strip the tool you have.

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        • JTGS850GL
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          #5
          I use an impact gun and have not had any issues getting them off. Could be that some PO used red Loctite when installing it in the past. Heat would be your only solution if that's true.
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          1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
          1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
          1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

          Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

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          • posplayr
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            #6
            Originally posted by JTGS850GL
            I use an impact gun and have not had any issues getting them off. Could be that some PO used red Loctite when installing it in the past. Heat would be your only solution if that's true.
            The 11000E 83's and probably 1150's are particularly hard.

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            • JTGS850GL
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              #7
              Originally posted by posplayr
              The 11000E 83's and probably 1150's are particularly hard.
              It may be that service reports of starter clutch failures and loosening flywheels on earlier years had prompted Suzuki to modify their assembly technique. Higher torque or some type of chemical lock.
              http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
              1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
              1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
              1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

              Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

              JTGS850GL aka Julius

              GS Resource Greetings

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              • bobgroger
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                #8
                Originally posted by JTGS850GL
                It may be that service reports of starter clutch failures and loosening flywheels on earlier years had prompted Suzuki to modify their assembly technique. Higher torque or some type of chemical lock.
                '83 up have a larger diameter crank snout and a different taper, more surface area..
                And a bigger puller.
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