1150 starter idler gear. Thrust washers or no?

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  • dorkburger
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    • Jan 2013
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    #1

    1150 starter idler gear. Thrust washers or no?

    My bike came to me with an 1100 stator cover, which I am in the process of changing to a proper 1150 cover. While inspecting things, I noticed a washer on the outside of the starter idler gear and none on the inside. I checked the online microfiche and it shows none for the 1150.
    Is this correct? Did Suzuki make a change on the 1150? By judging from the fische I would say yes, but wanted to run it by the masses here.
    Thanks.
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  • dorkburger
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    #2
    1150 factory service manual makes no mention of them. Haynes does, but that one covers primarily the 1100 with a chapter at the end for 1150 specific differences.
    I'm thinking they are not needed.
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    Glen
    -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
    -Rusty old scooter.
    Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
    https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
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    • GS1150Pilot
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      #3
      I'm agreeing there, Glen.
      "Thought he, it is a wicked world in all meridians; I'll die a pagan."
      ~Herman Melville

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      • Carter Turk
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        • May 2002
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        • Bellingham Washington

        #4
        No washers on either side on the 1150.
        GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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        • dorkburger
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          #5
          Thanks guys. Its back together, but I now need shorter cover bolts.
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          When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

          Glen
          -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
          -Rusty old scooter.
          Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
          https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
          https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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          • hillsy
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            • May 2008
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            • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

            #6
            Originally posted by dorkburger
            Thanks guys. Its back together, but I now need shorter cover bolts.
            You got a hacksaw?
            Current:
            Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

            Past:
            VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
            And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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            • dorkburger
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              #7
              Well, yes but I'd rather not take a chance on bungling up the threads, then the ones in the engine. If it was Summer I would consider stacking a few washers to get me by , but I can wait to get the correct ones at this point.
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              When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

              Glen
              -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
              -Rusty old scooter.
              Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
              https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
              https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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              • hillsy
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                • May 2008
                • 1469
                • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

                #8
                Put a nut on the bolt and wind it right up to the shoulder / tip. Clamp the end you want to cut off in the vice. Cut the bolt with the hacksaw at the required length. Unscrew the nut off the bolt (this chases the thread back). If the end is a bit burred clean it up with a file or dress it on a wire wheel. Insert correct length bolt in engine.
                Current:
                Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha :eek:)

                Past:
                VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
                And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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                • dorkburger
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                  #9
                  That's a good idea. Truthfully and gerally uncharacteristic for me to want shiny chrome, I want the chrome bolts to set things off a bit, but if I get impatient I will do that. Thanks.
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                  Glen
                  -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
                  -Rusty old scooter.
                  Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
                  https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
                  https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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