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    GSX750ES 1985 : Setting the carbs battery in place

    I finished the carbs rebuild according the fantastic "Mikuni_BS-CV_Carburetor_Rebuild_Tutorial" which i executed very thoroughly.
    When coming to put the carbs battery in place I faced the following questions and the manual doesn't help :

    1. In the attached picture there are 3 nozzles. The middle one is the fuel line. Do I need to connect the 2 side ones somewhere ?
    2. I accidentally connected the fuel line to the right nozzle causing a spill from the air-box. Could this damage the diaphragm or cause any issue ?
    3. Before putting the carbs in place, is there a setting or a calibration of a jet (pilot jet) that needs to be done before mounting the whole carbs battery in place and cannot be done afterwards ?
    4. Putting the carbs in place with the original air-box is nightmare. Any secret here to make it easier ?
    5. Is there a thoroughly documented procedure that shows how tune the carbs or how to set them after rebuild ?

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    Last edited by Guest; 10-27-2017, 08:11 AM.

    #2
    6. What is the preset of the air screw ? how many turns towards open from a fully closed position ?

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      #3
      1) Attach some lengths of tubing to those two breather hoses and then route them up to a safe place by the airbox.
      2) No worry
      3) No
      4) Loosen airbox and slide back. Cram carbs in front of airbox and then attach the airbox boots to the backside of the carbs. Lastly, move the carbs and airbox forward together and put the carbs into the rubber boots on the engine.
      5) Factory service manual shows how to vacuum sync carbs and assure the throttle cable has a little slack. Set the pilot screws to 2.5 turns open per the rebuild tutorial guidelines.
      Ed

      To measure is to know.

      Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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        #4
        "Set the pilot screws to 2.5 turns open per the rebuild tutorial guidelines."
        Thanks Ed!
        These are pilot screws, right (marked by the red lines in the picture) ?
        By the way...I initially thought you meant pilot jets. Naming is confusing...

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          #5
          Correct. Mikuni and Suzuki both call those parts Pilot Screws because they affect mixture through the pilot system.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

          Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

          Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

          Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

          KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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            #6
            There are some here that also call them "mixture" screws, because they do not only control air or fuel, but a mixture.

            The pilot fuel jets are in the float bowl, next to the main jet, and are covered with the rubber plugs. They should be installed snuggly.
            The pilot air jets are in the inlet of the carb, shown in your first picture at the 8 o'clock position. They should be installed snuggly.

            The only adjustable items are the pilot (mixture) screws, the synchronization screws between the carbs and the master idle speed screw.

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              #7
              As far as mounting the carbs / airbox goes, my EF had metal retaining spacers inside the airbox rubbers - which meant it was near impossible to remove or install these with the carbs anywhere near them.

              What I ended up doing was getting a wood saw (or something else that is thin, broad and flat) and placing this against the airbox rubbers. Then I slid the carbs back in pushing back against the saw / airbox to allow the carbs to slot in the intakes. Once seated, you could slide the saw out and push the airbox back onto the back of the carbs.
              Current:
              Z1300A5 Locomotive (swapped my Intruder for it), GS450 Cafe Project (might never finish it....), XT500 Commuter (I know - it's a Yamaha )

              Past:
              VL1500 Intruder (swapped for Z1300), ZX9R Streetfighter (lets face it - too fast....), 1984 GSX750EF, 1984 GSX1100EF (AKA GS1150)
              And a bunch of other crap Yamahas....

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                #8
                Originally posted by Steve View Post
                There are some here that also call them "mixture" screws, because they do not only control air or fuel, but a mixture.

                The pilot fuel jets are in the float bowl, next to the main jet, and are covered with the rubber plugs. They should be installed snuggly.
                The pilot air jets are in the inlet of the carb, shown in your first picture at the 8 o'clock position. They should be installed snuggly.

                The only adjustable items are the pilot (mixture) screws, the synchronization screws between the carbs and the master idle speed screw.

                .
                "... and the master idle speed screw"
                This is the shiny knob seen in this picture, right ?

                Screenshot_2017-10-28-09-08-52.jpg

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dpascal View Post
                  "... and the master idle speed screw"
                  This is the shiny knob seen in this picture, right ?

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                  Yes, that would be correct.

                  .
                  sigpic
                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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