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    Cylinder Head Nut Torque

    I am attempting to check my valve clearance adjustments on my 78' GS550 and my manual states to torque the 12 Cylinder head nuts to the torque setting listed in Table 4 of my manual before checking clearances. However, the Torque Specs in Table 4 doesn't show any torque settings for cylinder head nuts, nor the cam cover bolts. Can someone please tell me what ft-lbs of torque the 12mm cylinder head nuts and 10mm cam cover bolts get?

    Also, another manual I found online says to "tighten the twelve 8mm nuts", but my cylinder head nuts are definitely 12mm.

    #2
    The factory manual has the spec in a couple of places. Engine section page 55 for example (16.5-19.5 ft-lbs) and again on page 147 under Tightening Torque. Before you try to tighten these nuts you need to break them loose by turning them backwards. Once they turn back, torque to tighten. Regarding bolt size, the rating is attached to the thread diameter, not the head size.

    Good luck
    Ed

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      #3
      pro tip, when you find the torque table, print it out and tack it to the wall of the garage....
      1983 GS 1100 ESD

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        #4
        Originally posted by greg78gs750 View Post
        pro tip, when you find the torque table, print it out and tack it to the wall of the garage....
        Seconded. Quite handy.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Nessism View Post
          The factory manual has the spec in a couple of places. Engine section page 55 for example (16.5-19.5 ft-lbs) and again on page 147 under Tightening Torque. Before you try to tighten these nuts you need to break them loose by turning them backwards. Once they turn back, torque to tighten. Regarding bolt size, the rating is attached to the thread diameter, not the head size.

          Good luck
          Perhaps a silly question, but do you break all of the cylinder head bolts loose, then re-tighten them in the order stated in the manual?

          Or do you go in the order in the manual and break each one loose and re-tighten?
          Jordan

          1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
          2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
          1973 BMW R75/5

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            #6
            Originally posted by hannibal View Post
            Perhaps a silly question, but do you break all of the cylinder head bolts loose, then re-tighten them in the order stated in the manual?

            Or do you go in the order in the manual and break each one loose and re-tighten?
            One at a time.
            Ed

            To measure is to know.

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              #7
              You are doing valve adjustments. So my question is why the heck are you loosening and retightening any bolts?? Unless you removed the entire top end you shouldn't need to torque the cylinder bolts...or any others for that matter. Have you left out some information the original post???
              Last edited by chuck hahn; 04-24-2018, 12:15 PM.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                You are doing valve adjustments. So my question is why the heck are you loosening and retightening any bolts?? Unless you removed the entire top end you shouldn't need to torque the cylinder bolts...or any others for that matter. Have you left out some information the original post???
                Read your service manual chuck. Torquing the head nuts are part of normal maintenance. If more people did it there would be a lot less head/base gasket leaks.
                Ed

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                  Read your service manual chuck. Torquing the head nuts are part of normal maintenance. If more people did it there would be a lot less head/base gasket leaks.
                  ^ +1 Very true. I was guilty of NEVER re-torqueing the head nuts since I bought my 850 new in 1981. Cylinder head oil leak developed 2 years ago at about 40 000 km. After re-torqueing the head nuts (I marked the original position of the nuts, and after re-torqueing, some of them had turned further than before) the leak was gone.

                  Thing is, you cannot get at all the head nuts when the valve cover is still on. So the ideal time to check them is when you have the valve cover off to do valve adjustments.
                  1981 GS850G "Blue Magic" (Bike Of The Month April 2009)

                  1981 GS1000G "Leo" (Bike Of The Month August 2023)

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                    #10
                    Ive read that they get rechecked after the break in but don't recall anything after that.
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                      Ive read that they get rechecked after the break in but don't recall anything after that.
                      From the FSM...

                      maintance table.jpg
                      Ed

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                        #12
                        Chuck believes anybody that reads a manual is a quack......
                        1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head
                        1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017

                        I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fjbj40 View Post
                          Chuck believes anybody that reads a manual is a quack......
                          In his defense the manual does say to change the brake hoses every two years and we all know that's hooey. Torquing the head isn't though.
                          Ed

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