1100 Katana with GS 1150 bottom end smoking oil

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  • John Kat
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    • Oct 2010
    • 1433
    • France

    #1

    1100 Katana with GS 1150 bottom end smoking oil

    After almost 8 years with little to no riding, I started riding my 1100 Kat again.
    The bike runs perfectly with a very good idle but blue smoke comes out of one of the exhausts when accelerating hard...
    I suppose that at least one the cylinders and piston rings might be worn?
    I suspect the bike had been used for drag racing before I bought it as the bottom end comes from an 1150?
    The cylinder head however is from an 1100?
    Is there any special reasons for this?
    I hope the bore is still at 74 mm so that I can use a Wiseco 1299 kit.
    Any advice?
    sigpicJohn Kat
    My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
    GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020
  • Brendan W
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    Past Site Supporter
    • Jul 2013
    • 4922
    • Wexford, Ireland

    #2
    If the bike has sat, you could be looking at a sticky ring instead and a few more miles and/or some of the various treatments for stuck rings could see you good.
    97 R1100R
    Previous
    80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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    • John Kat
      Forum Sage
      • Oct 2010
      • 1433
      • France

      #3
      Originally posted by Brendan W
      If the bike has sat, you could be looking at a sticky ring instead and a few more miles and/or some of the various treatments for stuck rings could see you good.
      Good advice!
      Is it something I have to add to the engine oil?
      sigpicJohn Kat
      My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
      GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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      • Brendan W
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        Past Site Supporter
        • Jul 2013
        • 4922
        • Wexford, Ireland

        #4
        I've only done it a few times and added a home brew of kerosene/atf/acetone directly to the cylinder through the plughole and left overnight.
        There are proprietary additives but I don't know what instructions they give.
        You could pull the plugs and see if one is oily - generally a dead give away.
        Last edited by Brendan W; 07-31-2018, 12:04 PM.
        97 R1100R
        Previous
        80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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        • John Kat
          Forum Sage
          • Oct 2010
          • 1433
          • France

          #5
          Originally posted by Brendan W
          I've only done it a few times and added a home brew of kerosene/atf/acetone directly to the cylinder through the plughole and left overnight.
          There are proprietary additives but I don't know what instructions they give.
          You could pull the plugs and see if one is oily - generally a dead give away.
          Thanks, so no Irish whisky?
          sigpicJohn Kat
          My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
          GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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          • Brendan W
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            Past Site Supporter
            • Jul 2013
            • 4922
            • Wexford, Ireland

            #6
            Originally posted by John Kat
            Thanks, so no Irish whisky?
            I imagine if you drank enough of it the smoke would disappear, until tomorrow at least
            97 R1100R
            Previous
            80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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            • GregT
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              • Jul 2009
              • 3541
              • New Zealand

              #7
              It could simply be a valve stem seal lifted off the guide. They tend to dry out and bond to the stem when they're left long enough.

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              • John Kat
                Forum Sage
                • Oct 2010
                • 1433
                • France

                #8
                Originally posted by GregT
                It could simply be a valve stem seal lifted off the guide. They tend to dry out and bond to the stem when they're left long enough.
                Right, but changing them will require lifting the cylinder head...
                I will have a look first.
                sigpicJohn Kat
                My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
                GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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                • Brendan W
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                  Past Site Supporter
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 4922
                  • Wexford, Ireland

                  #9
                  If it is a stem seal it's probably an exhaust. If it's an exhaust you can drop the headers and have a look in the ports to see which is oily.
                  If it comes to that there are ways to keep your head on and replace stem seals. Packing the cylinder with cord for one. But that's for another day.
                  97 R1100R
                  Previous
                  80 GS850G, 79 Z400B, 85 R100RT, 80 Z650D, 76 CB200

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                  • John Kat
                    Forum Sage
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1433
                    • France

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brendan W
                    If it is a stem seal it's probably an exhaust. If it's an exhaust you can drop the headers and have a look in the ports to see which is oily.
                    If it comes to that there are ways to keep your head on and replace stem seals. Packing the cylinder with cord for one. But that's for another day.
                    I understand how you would go about doing that.
                    Beeing a 16 valve engine doubles the chances of having a problem with the stem seals I suppose...
                    sigpicJohn Kat
                    My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
                    GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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