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 Is this a sign of a failed head gasket?On my 77 GS750, the exterior "seam" between the head and the cylinder block where the head gasket is, is dark with oil all the way around the engine. Is this a sign of a potential head gasket failure? I haven't been able to do a compression test yet and I'm not sure I'll be able to for some time. I'm in-between houses right now and don't really have a good place to work on my bikes. I intend to do a compression test once I'm able, but I thought I'd ask you guys what you think to help prepare myself.
 
  - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip! - 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
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 Yup. That looks like a gasket leak to me. Regarding a compression check, be sure to adjust the valves first and hold the throttle wide open with a hot engine.Ed
 
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 If the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
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 To be more sure, you could clean it up, dry it well, then spray foot powder all around the valve cover gasket area, tach drive inlet, cam chain tensioner , and head gasket. Fire it up and see what gets wet where. Only cost you a can of foot powder spray if you don’t already have one.Links
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 If the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.
 
 I forgot to mention the bike doesn't run. Needs the carbs cleaned.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
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 do the checkOriginally posted by 93Bandit View PostIf the general consensus is that the head gasket has failed, then I will probably skip the compression test and tear the motor down for gaskets. While I'm in there, I hope to install some 850 pistons and jugs if I have them by the time I get that deep into the bike build.
 
 I forgot to mention the bike doesn't run. Needs the carbs cleaned.
 why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
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 If the head gasket is leaking the top end must come apart.Originally posted by Cipher View Postdo the check
 why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
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 I'd split the whole engine. Parts are cheap enough to not worry too much about what you would find.Ed
 
 To measure is to know.
 
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 KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection
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 Torque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
 Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.Last edited by Brendan W; 11-09-2019, 07:41 AM.97 R1100R
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 Right, probably oil seeping from the timing chain cavity. The GS is 40 years ago engine tech, the gaskets seep.Originally posted by Brendan W View PostTorque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
 Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.
 But if your plan is to rebuild it anyway…moot point.1982 GS1100G-
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 If you had read my second post, you would have noticed that I'd like to do 850 piston/jug swap. That being the case, the engine will need to be torn down regardless. At this point, low compression due to a head gasket is moot.Originally posted by Cipher View Postdo the check
 why friviously dismantle the top end without numbers?
 aspire harder
 
 Twice now you've attacked me in referencing my signature. Feel free to exit the thread at any time unless you have something positive to say. I appreciate any and all constructive criticism, however I believe you're being childish.Originally posted by Cipher View Postobviously but why not do the check
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 PO said it ran not too long ago. I put a battery in it and it almost fired but it's out of fuel. Also, I'm sure the carbs need a thorough cleaning. I have no reason to believe the engine has mechanic issues.Originally posted by 1978GS750E View PostAgreed Nessism. But wouldn't you want to get it running to see what else might be wrong in the engine or tranny before tearing into it? Or maybe it was running at some point, who knows?
 
 This was my second thought, I wondered if a leak at the chain tensioner caused the leak so I looked, but that portion of the head is actually drier than the rest of the engine. Its oily all the way around the engine, even the front. I'm betting on a failed head gasket.Originally posted by Brendan W View PostTorque check would be first on my list too. When mine failed it was between 1&2 on the front side. Large parts of the join were bone dry and I was losing a litre every 400 miles, boots wet.
 Get the tank off and have a look at the valve cover gasket in between the cams and the chain tunnel area. A leak here can get out the front and run around the headgasket.- 1983 GS850L ~ 30,000 miles and going up - Finally ready for a proper road trip!
 - 1977 GS750B - Sold but not forgotten
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